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Appendix 165: Secret History Of Charles Manson, Jack Ruby, CIA’s MKULTRA, & The 60s, 10 Tom O’Neil Interviews (2020 and 2021)

Webmaster Introduction:  In his book, “Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties” (2019), and in the interviews below, O’Neil establishes solid links between the CIA’s top-secret MKULTRA mind control program and the Manson murders of 1969 and the JFK assassination of 1963!

Information presented in this post, based on researcher/author, Tom O’Neil’s 20 years of research is an excellent supplement to my article,  Part VI: Mind Control: History and Applications of this series.   I predict that 20th and 21st century American history will have to be re-written to account for these astounding revelations, which really do change everything.

Also relevant to understanding the massive importance and extent of these covert operations is Appendix 166: Ruby Ridge Revisited: Military-Intelligence Mind Control: Insights from Jim Keith’s “Mass Control: Engineering Human Consciousness” (1999)

Introduction to Video 10 below: In 1999, entertainment reporter Tom O’Neill accepted a three-month assignment from a film magazine to write a story about how the infamous Charles Manson Tate–LaBianca murders that changed Hollywood. Tom missed his deadline but continued to investigate the murders, falling down a 20-year investigative rabbit hole that birthed his new book “CHAOS” which is the product of those two decades of meticulous research, hundreds of interviews, and falling-outs with publishers that led to financial and legal repercussions. Tom’s book, ‘Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties’ presents his research into the background and motives for the Tate–LaBianca murders committed by the Manson Family in 1969. The evidence Tom has uncovered blows massive holes in the official narrative of the Charles Manson story and exposes corruption, & cover ups, and Manson’s connection to the CIA’s MK Ultra, LSD testing, & psychological warfare mind control programs. Toms book is the holy grail of true crime and on this episode Tom tells some shocking stories that had to be left out of the book. Get CHAOS here: https://www.amazon.com/Chaos-Charles-…

Tom O’Neil: (Regarding motives for the Manson murders) (From Video #9: Manson and The Secret War of the 60’s, Tom O’Neil (Sept. 14, 2021)

“If you look at the (FBI’s) COINTELPRO objectives, which were to neutralize the left-wing movement and make them look horrible, evil, and bad and this is what drugs are going to do to your kids…. The kind of outcome that these (Tate-LaBianca) murders (of 1969) had was to make the hippies into the boogie man… the biggest boogie man in US history, at least until the 1970’s, was Charlie Manson. This is what the CIA’s CHAOS and the FBI’s COINTELPRO programs were trying to do… damage the youth movement, the youth revolution….. They were especially going after the elite whites of Hollywood movies and music who were supporting the Black Panthers…. This could have been a CHAOS-COINTELPRO operation to turn the world, the nation, the culture against the hippies, the left wing, the Black Panthers.

.. The purpose of the FBI’s COINTELPRO was either to kill the leaders of these 60’s counterculture groups, or get them put into prison. The FBI actually acknowledged killing 20 to 30 of these leaders.”

Key elements of O’Neil’s narrative derived from the below interviews, as compiled by Webmaster:

“It was in the federal prisons that all this CIA MKULTRA research was going on…. These prisoners were getting LSD and West was hypnotizing them in some cases. It was worse than the Nazis; the mind is the most important thing, other than your soul, and they’re tampering with it. Charles Manson was in these prisons, including Vacaville (California Medical Facility), which was for mentally disturbed prisoners, from the mid-1950’s until his release in 1967. I’m building a case that this all began when he was experimented on in prisons. Manson studied Scientology at McNeil Island Corrections Center off the coast of Seattle, Washington between 1961 and 1965. He had also learned the arts of hypnosis from a US Navy hypnotist who called himself Deanyer, who was arrested and tried in 1958 or 1959 for brainwashing and raping numerous 12- to 17-year old girls; i.e., for doing exactly what Manson did later.

When Manson was released from prison in LA in 1967, he immediately violated his parole by going to San Francisco without permission. (Despite committing many, many crimes between 1967 and 1969, he was protected by someone and not re-arrested until after the “Manson murders” in 1969)…. All of a sudden, he got re-assigned to a federal parole officer in San Francisco named Roger Smith who was a criminalogy student at Berkeley and a drug researcher at the Haight-Ashbury Free Medical Clinic, and who also became his handler. That’s where things get really crazy.

Dr. Louis Jolyon West was a top, academic CIA-contract psychiatrist who was an expert in violence, hypnotism, LSD, and brainwashing. He went on leave of absence from the University of Oklahoma to study the explosion of the “summer of love” in San Francisco in 1967. Somehow, he anticipated this would happen six months before the event. He went to the Haight and opened up what he called a laboratory, the Haight-Ashbury Free Medical Clinic, that was disguised as a hippie crash pad with hippie posters, etc. In January, 1967, he told his six graduate students to grow their hair long because he wanted them to staff this hippie crash pad laboratory and study the young kids who were going to invade San Francisco the following the summer. How did he know this would happen? It was engineered to happen by people in government…

West had been working in the CIA’s MKULTRA program since 1953. The ultimate goal of this program was to learn how to create programmed assassins, i.e., people who would kill without remorse and have no recollection of the killing or of their programming West’s specialty was to mix hypnosis with a variety of drugs to manipulate his subjects. He was a very well known psychiatrist, who became head of the Psychiatry Department at UCLA shortly thereafter. Together with Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, CIA director of Technical Services Division who oversaw the MKULTRA program, West created the blueprint for the Manchurian Candidate program. In Charles Manson, West helped create the perfect Manchurian Candidate.

“…. They (the Manson Family cult murderers) were “stalking and targeting” (specific people), “at least one of those four people, maybe two, maybe all four” (including Sharon Tate and LaBianca). </em>

I’ve got a paper record of West corresponding with Gottlieb during the period of 1953 to 1967.*  West had stated he wanted to take the CIA mind control experiments “out into the field.” At the Haight-Ashbury Free Medical Clinic, he did this by recruiting mind control subjects, some of whom became the Manson Family members who participated in the Manson murders. He also also assisted in transforming Manson, an illiterate 32-year old conman, into this guru with of 30 to 40 followers who would do anything he told them to do.

Information about this top-secret program came out at the Church Senate Committee hearings in the mid 1970s. The State Department’s John Marks got the MKULTRA records and wrote a book about it (“In Search of the Manchurian Candidate: The CIA and Mind Control: The Secret History of the Behavioral Sciences”). These records identified Dr. Jolyon West as one of the top CIA psychiatrists.

West was also Jack Ruby’s psychiatrist. West inserted himself into the Ruby case after Ruby was convicted of killing Lee Harvey Oswald in 1964. Ruby’s defense argument had been that he had had an epileptic fit and had shot him and was amnesic of the shooting. So West inserts himself into the case and gets assigned through his connections to Ruby’s new lawyer, Hubert Winston Smith. He went to Dallas County Jail in April, 1964, to examine Ruby in preparation for his next trial because West had gotten an appeal for a psychiatric review. In their early 1950s correspondence, West had told Sidney Gottlieb (who the CIA’s MKULTRA program) that part of his experimentation was to induce insanity in a person without their awareness. West examined Ruby and when he emerged from the jail he announced to the press that in the preceding 48 hours Ruby had had a psychotic break that was irrevocable. That is, that he was completely insane and he couldn’t return to sanity. He had had audio and visual hallucinations during the exam. Ruby told West that he could hear Jewish children being boiled alive outside his cell and he hid under his table in fear because he thought there were people who were trying to kill him. <strong>(Webmaster comment: These sound and visual effects could have been created by Voice To Skull (V2K) or Voice-Of-God weapons.)</strong>

Prior to Ruby’s examinations with West, there was no evidence of Ruby being insane. West treated Ruby for about 6 months and was alone with Ruby in the cell during that time. When Ruby finally gave his testimony to the Warren Commission, Warren, Joe Ford, and the young Arlen Spectre (an investigator for the Warren Commission who came up with the “Magic Bullet Conclusion”) put Ruby under oath and Ruby babbled, was incoherent. He grabbed Spectre, who was, like him Jewish, and said: “Don’t you know they are killing Jews and they killed my brother and cut off his legs. I can hear them being tortured outside my cell?” Remember, West had already told Gottlieb he had developed the techniques to induce insanity without the person’s awareness.

Ruby had a lot of connections to organized crime and been part of the CIA’s anti-Castro Cuban effort to assassinate Castro, called Operation Mongoose. Ruby had admitted to West that he was working with the people who were suspected of being involved in the assassination in a conspiracy. West withheld that information from the Warren Commission. In 1978, the House Select Committee on Assassinations concluded there was a probable conspiracy to kill Kennedy; that Oswald hadn’t acted alone. Robert Blakley was on this committee and he wrote a book about this and he concluded that Ruby had acted on behalf of a conspiracy to silence Oswald, and that he had stalked him and had premeditated the murder.

Incidentally, Dr. Louis Jolyon West was also the official psychiatrist for Sirhan Sirhan, who was accused of shooting Robert F. Kennedy, and Timothy McVeigh, accused of carrying out the Oklahoma City Bombing.   (It’s a small MKULTRA world.)

* Not surprisingly, both Drs. Sidney Gottlieb and Louis Jolyon West were born Jewish.

Contents of Post:

1. The Secret History of MKULTRA: Tom O’Neil on Joe Rogan Show April 16, 2020

2. MKULTRA and Charles Manson, Tom O’Neil on Joe Rogan Show April 16, 2020

3. The Official Narrative of the Tate Murders Doesn’t Add Up: Tom O’Neil on Joe Rogan Show (April 16, 2020)

4. Jack Ruby’s Court Assigned Shrink Was An MKULTRA Doc; Tom O’Neil on Joe Rogan Show (April 16, 2020)

5. Tom O’Neill: Manson Prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi Was Compromised

6. Was Charles Manson a CIA Asset?: Tom O’Neil on Joe Rogan Show

7. The Truth About the Manson Murders Could Be On The Tex Watson Tapes

8. Tom O’Neill CHAOS – Charles Manson, The CIA & The 60s (June 17, 2021)

9. Manson and The Secret War of the 60’s, Tom O’Neil (Sept. 14, 2021)

10. The CIA’s Secret Mind Control Experiments on Charles Manson | Tom O’Neill (July 1, 2021)

Excerpt from Interview right after 2:00 hours:

Tom O’Neil: … “That means they (the Manson murderers) were stalking and targeting (specific people), at least one of those four people, maybe two, maybe all four”

Comments to interviews

4,060 Comments

JC Glez
2 years ago
A lot of people need to understand that MKUltra is still occurring today, they’re just much more advanced and a lot better at hiding it

Mark Taylor
10 months ago (edited)
I just finished Tom’s book. It is GREAT!!! He has done a real service. Understand, our government is run by sociopaths and does not represent or care about us … no matter which party is in power. God bless courageous whistleblowers and true journalists.

Doc Holliday’s Raiders Intel
1 year ago (edited)
I’ll still buy the book. This man has done us all a service by investigating the dark corners of American history and I think it’s cool that he gives spoilers to his own book knowing how important it is to Joe’s interview.

Huckleberry Finn
3 weeks ago
Funny how we know the CIA did insane shit back in the day, but when we mention something happening nowadays, we are labeled a “conspiracy theorist” 🤣🤦‍♂️

Dennis Kohnow
2 years ago
This is crazy. All the years of Manson saying ” the CIA fried my brain!” Apparently he wasn’t lying. Smh

Dang Ling Long
2 years ago
Have you ever noticed these unethical operations are only presented to the public after every Guilty party has died thus denying the public any satisfaction of seeing Justice upheld?

Rob Rohrer
2 years ago
“Don’t worry everyone, our Government has it under control” Famous last words🤔
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Iceout
2 years ago
I feel sorry for people just learning about this… it’s great that they are, but geez… the fact it’s not all over the news blows my mind

Lance Taylor
2 years ago (edited)
This is like real life Westworld.

“Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn’t.” -Mark Twain

Jim Nasium
5 months ago
I know a once well known musician who went through MKUltra experiments in college. He was dosed with hallucinogens and held in a cage while taunted, and later forced to listen to long periods of music through headphones, while occasionally stopping to be berated by the observers. Then he would have to write reports of his experience, during which he was criticized and mocked. They paid him a small annual stipend for the rest of his life. I asked him if he ever thought of being interviewed and making it public. He said that a friend of his once did that and then mysteriously went missing.

Linus D N
2 years ago
Joe is low key preparing us for the new return of Alex Jones.

Winston Wins
2 months ago (edited)
“They did a lot of crazy shit back then.” You really think they stopped, Joe? Imagine what they’re doing now? Probably quite horrifying. With current technology we are all at risk.

Yolo Swaggins
2 years ago
Joe looks down on phone: 20 missed calls from A. Jones

Diogo Cezar
2 years ago
I like this guy. He’s not like that woman that kept saying “well Joe, that’s in my book, I can’t talk about it”

ohtebowah
2 years ago
It’s almost ludicrous to believe that project MK Ultra isn’t still be carried on in secret

BuckNaked2k
4 months ago
For most people, it’s just easier to dismiss all this as “conspiracy theory”, rather than listen, learn, and realize that’s exactly the response the government wants you to have.

Vaden
2 years ago
These programs never end. Can you imagine waking up to a world without people in charge of us who are indifferent towards our well being?

Chuck Frazier
4 months ago
My grandson tells me to “trust the government”. He has a lot to learn.

unmaker
5 months ago
What some people who hear about MKUltra fail to realize is that program was very successful. The techniques they developed were put into practice on a wide scale, as the breakthroughs were made, and are now employed in a large variety of ways; one of which being the way the government interacts with the general population (press releases, psyops, law enforcement, etc)

Connor Holbrook
11 months ago
after doing 4 years in state prison, I can confidently say that the remnants of MK-ULTRA are very real and still exist

Copa Kabana
4 months ago
Mk ultra is used in every day life: Hollywood, mainstream media, Netflix…

HORIZONS
5 months ago
One arm was specific, targeting an individual for a variety of reasons. Another was to be delivered on a mass scale to control a populace or bring about mass hysteria, to be delivered through the air or water supply. Think about that one for a while.

Bria Bridges
4 months ago
Love it when you can research a topic for years but still catch new information on it. Great interview

Croz Raven
1 year ago
MK Ultra still happening to this day. No doubt about. No way CIA just simply abandoned it with that kind of results.

hector hernandez
2 years ago
He covered so much info in just 3 minutes. Incredible.

Heart of Dixie Land Mgmt.
1 month ago
A government that would do that to their own citizens is inherently evil. So many either don’t care or don’t believe they do things like they do.

Samuel Schehrer
2 years ago
If they were doing this shit back then, imagine wtf they are doing now!!!

Chode Mckenzie
2 years ago (edited)
The dude that had the best LSD in my dorm swore to us he got it for free and never charged us for it (which I honestly believe because what kid of drug dealer gives out free LSD and acid constantly? And no, it’s not hearsay. I was one of the dudes getting free acid from him every couple days and this went on for the last 2 years of college). Right after college he was in the CIAs applicant process and according to his social media is a “retired field officer for the CIA” LOL this all happened in the late 90s.

Dick Narcowitz
1 year ago
My brother started talking about memory loss and missing time after serving in the USMC during desert storm. A few weeks later he died in a single car collision on a country road. Obviously, this could be coincidence, but I will always wonder.

AR-Sith F.Austin
4 months ago (edited)
There’s a reason you needed to do these sorts of things on ones memory and it was not for their usage in commission of controlling those for ops but to implement the second phase of it which was convert implantation of a “neuralink like” technology that we began using in actual combat teams for specOps personnel (that I was aware of in the 90s.) Some knew they were getting these and some didn’t. Mainly the implants were used at the team leader level for instantaneous communication and transference of orders and intel on highly dynamic operations where things could change “boom boom boom” on the fly and instantaneous control or info could actually be exchanged or actually remotely asserted on an operator if need be, basically think the movie “Gamer” with G. Butler. Also the interface of being able to always record what’s happening without the need of a camera, audio and comms, even user access in the “minds eye” as I understood it to drones, etc. All this for whatever purpose you can imagine in the field this had serious use and application. So this stuff with Musk and his company Neuralink is nothing new and the capabilities of this stuff is far more advanced than just monkeys playing Pong with it’s mind which is nothing new either. They can use monkeys to run robots and all sorts of stuff… Anyway, obviously this stuff is highly classified still but for those acting like what Musk is doing is something he cooked up is just ludicrous. Any tech that can be exploited on a battlefield gets top priority and it out decades before the public ever even knows about it’s existence.

Now the scary part. I want people to remember the Green Bê-èts that came home in the 2001/02 time frame and they were taking their whole family out then themselves and think about why this is… Think about what I just told you. You get some guys that shared the wrong things with the wrong people that didn’t know they had this and they get “activated” basically to do all this without their knowledge or control over themselves. Think about how scary a group of these guys is in the wrong hands. That’s why the knowledge and control over this stuff is so tight lipped and why Musk has people leaving his company doing this stuff left and right because those dark powers that be don’t want people using and exploiting these technologies how they please. It’s not meant for private hands and I think Musk knows this and just does not care. Because I guarantee he’s been approached to not do it or at least not at a civilian level past something that the Gov couldn’t fully utilize and control as they see fit. Anyway. Think about the implications all this stuff has even used in the right way. It would make a person a genius once fully activated and utilized. You could be the jeopardy champion for ever or get kicked out of every casino in the world once you’ve taken them all for a million a piece or before you’re black listed from them all (just to think of some of the potential fun aspects of it).

Christopmoody M
2 years ago
If Alex Jones stayed calm when he talked he’d sound like this guy.

VWTurbo265
1 month ago
Watching a large amount of the population vote for more government is like watching people put on their own shackles.

The Rustbelt Blacksmith
2 years ago
“they did a lot of crazy shit back then”, i doubt anything has changed.

J. E. Allan
2 years ago
Now THIS is a premier Joe Rogan guest. Listen closely & you’ll hear scratching. It’s Eddie Bravo begging to be let in the studio. 😂

Kram Raliuga
7 months ago (edited)
I live in the area of Lackland AFB and I’ve always been in disbelief of how so many people visit the base each year from all over the country to attend military graduation events, and the city has never invested in improving the neighborhood directly outside the Air Force base. It’s completely drug and crime ridden, psychotic, homeless, and dangerous people all over the area. It’s disappointing to know and see, as my father is a veteran and we visit the base regularly, what visitors to our city must think when they drive down the main road to the front of the base through a slum neighborhood. And it’s definitely under patrolled by local authorities or mp’s if that’s even possible.

Simon Rogers
5 months ago
This to me has to be one of the most fascinating interviews joe has done.

John Hutton
4 months ago (edited)
My Dad retired high ranking from the military. He would not allow me and my siblings to watch TV. He always said it was the devil’s toy. Boy was he right. The crap on television is rotting young people’s brains.

Giovanni Ramirez
1 year ago
The moment you realize the “Jason Bourne” movies are all documentaries

Willy Lias
2 years ago
Not an experiment gone wrong! It worked exactly the way they intended for it to work. Goal accomplished

John Nada
2 years ago
“They did a lot of crazy shit back then”

Oh dear Joe…

Edward Hines
7 months ago
“Get you to do things against your will.”. This is why when an Ad on TV or the internet comes on you feel compelled to buy it. The research didnt get destroyed. it was sold to corporations.

PNW Prepper
3 months ago
I remember reading about all of this when I was in high school and telling my father about it. He didn’t believe me about how shady our government is until I physically sat him down and made him read articles and watch a couple videos like this one. Gave him a couple edibles beforehand and it blew his fuckin mind. Now he’s all hey son have you heard about this or that every time I see him and I love it.

blaisetzu
2 weeks ago
In the wake of these mass shootings in US, it makes me wonder if some kind of modern MK Ultra was used with these killers. What would possess a person to walk into a grocery and kill 10 unarmed strangers? Or 19 innocent children.? How is that heroic or brave, further your team or better your life? Why not go after an enemy you know? It’s pure cowardice. And pure hatred for the world, that most humans, including me will never understand…

And while it does and can unite the country in shock and grief for a moment. These days it ultimate further politically divides the country in some predictable ways. And it almost feels that some, at home and abroad, revel in this divide… echoes of mk ultra…

Pretty Astounding
1 hour ago
This is fascinating. I believe I was offered a chance to participate in this experiment (sometime in the late 70’s). I was dating a physicist at the University. He had a ridiculous academic and scholarship background that anyone would envy. We were not intimate….just friends. I mentioned to him that I knew how to perform hypnosis. He kept coming back to this during dinner and when we returned to my place, he asked me if I would hypnotist him. I had not done a lot of people because I had literally learned it from a book and gone out and hypnotized my friends with some very comical results. I agreed to go ahead and do it. When I did, it was I that was stunned. When I asked his name, he gave me one that was completely. This threw me waaaay off as well as scaring me half to death because, although I knew of past life regression, I was not ready to experience this. I called the session short…..real short. Afterward, he told me that he had been adopted and had a completely different name. I had never med an adoptee before and didn’t know that they changed the babies’ names. He then, quiet seriously asked me if I wanted to get involved in a government program that had, as one of his components, hypnosis. He explained that they were trying to make men (soldiers) stronger than they perceived themselves to be…..physically that is. He only made mention of LSD as a drug that would be utilized with the hypnosis. In the 70’s I knew that the government was involved in some really weird experiments. I questioned him more about it. I question whether I would have to leave Boulder. I believe he intimated that I would have to move somewhere different to work with this group. I was very naive, was in graduate school, in Boulder, but had NEVER thought of moving that far away from my family. I was spoiled and pampered and VERY sheltered. I eventually told him that I would think about it. I never got back with him. Later, I knew that I was being recruited into that program. Glad I thought a second time about it. Now, it is only a funny story.

SHS Red Devils
4 months ago (edited)
Additionally, this MK Ultra Program was imported from Germany to UK then to the US at the end of WWII under the sponsorship of the Rockefeller Foundation. The deeper down the rabbit hole, the more interesting it gets.

through the grapevine
2 years ago
Sometimes I wonder who threatened Joe to not talk about certain things. He said no one did, but it seems fishy. All his theories just went out the window, out of nowhere, then he starts making fun of conspiracy theorists. How did him and Eddie become such good friends? Sitting around, smoking dope and yakking about conspiracy theories?

Dan Boltmaker
2 weeks ago
I always believe in the idea of “truth in the movies, lies in the news”. I believe they tell us through movies what they are doing but it’s hidden in plain sight so nobody thinks it’s real. What this guy is saying sounds like the Jason Bourne story. There is even a guy named Hirsch in the Bourne’s.

Lukas Medina
10 months ago
Easily one of the best shows he’s done

Payton
2 years ago
A great disappointment of mine is that most people hear of these official operations that have been released in FOIAs or people who testified in the Senate or the CIA/FBI admitting themselves to doing some of these things, but people look at stuff this like: “Oh hey, the crazy 60s and 70s man, what a wild time!” And they don’t suspect shit like this (or worse) has continued, but some people actually get hostile about the idea that things like this could still go on as if it were a teenage phase that the US went through and “we’re done with that now so don’t bring it up, you’re crazy.”

It’s just so frustrating. I mean I understand I can be a neurotic person, but just the fact that it seems like most people blindly accept what is right in front of them without questioning or looking any deeper!! I’m not asking anyone to believe in fanciful theories but God Damn this world is so much more complex then the good Democrats vs the bad Republicans or the good Republicans vs the bad Democrats! That shit is childish.

Dee Construct
5 months ago
There are two really good reports from The Fifth Estate on this. One in the eighties and a follow in much more recent years. A Canadian women was subjected to it. After years of fighting the government they finally said yes.. it happened. The doctor in the states mentioned here also ran a hospital in Canada.

Go check it out if you are interested. Very informative.

Ellie McCarthy
1 year ago
People call Manson & the family evil yet those who conducted these experimental crimes are worse

Amy V
3 months ago
Love this guy. His book Chaos is excellent. What a fabulous author. I’m reading it now. Thank you Tom and Joe!!

519pigeon
2 years ago
Tom is great at speaking. He always says if something is speculation or his opinion. That way the facts are stated, I either agree with his links between the facts or make my own conclusion.

Natani ___
5 months ago
And of course, MKUltra worked. They figured out how to make Manchurian candidates. And if you have the ability to make the perfect programmable sleeper soldiers, would you really just shut that down? Or would you keep it going, but just hide that you are?

Nathan P
4 months ago
Love this type of history and just the Convo of our past and how crazy shit had been but just imagine now.ig they were doing it then, I have no doubt it happens now but it’s far advanced and wouldn’t be brought to light because they could do these type of things now in unimaginable ways that we would never think. Or at least I think it’s very possible. One thing I would question and it’s just to be non biased is that the man he talks about I believe it is West, is dead and this guy’s books or the info he finally shares is only put out after the guy died. He says himself he wished west was alive to answer to all these findings. But you have to ask if that’s a genuine statement or just a little fluff to make it seem like he didnt wait till West died to put out his book out so west could explain or proved these things to be false. But again my personal thought is that this shit absolutely went down and probly still does in some form or way . But just to be fair I gotta question both sides. Love this topic

Fernando Villa
2 years ago
There’s your government and people still think the government has their best interests in mind.

Wise_Ape
2 years ago
Tom O’Neil such an interesting guy, and so ready to inform us.

Joy to the World
3 months ago
I’m so glad I clicked on this video. This stuff has been and still is going on today. Wish people would be more opened minded.

Joe Blow
4 months ago
Joe never misses an opportunity to bring up Operation Midnight Climax, lol.

Lockdown spinning
2 years ago
Finally joes starting to be normal again and have these cool people on

Devin Watson
3 months ago
Leslie Nielson tried to expose MKUltra through his Naked Gun series of films. He was taken out before he could finish the work he started.

James Paul Taylor
3 months ago
Back in my younger (complete dumbass) days when I lived in Northern California I used to go out drinking with my friends to this one particular bar every Thursday night which was karaoke night. Before I’d go out most times I would take Xanax and then drink pretty heavily. The next day people would ask me about things or talk about things I did that I had absolutely ZERO recollection of. I remember someone telling me that they liked the way I sang the song WAR PIGS karaoke. HUH? I didn’t remember getting up to sing that song or telling the guy running the karaoke machine I wanted to sing that song or actually singing that song at all. More than one person talked about it though…so I guess it happened…along with a bunch of other stuff they were saying that I said and did that I didn’t remember at all and still don’t. There was a 4 to 6 hour period of my life that was a complete and total blackout. After reflecting on that for a few days I remember thinking to myself… I COULD HAVE KILLED SOMEONE and I would have absolutely no recollection of doing it.
If I could accidentally make this blackout happen through my own stupidity by mixing alcohol and Xanax…imagine what these scientists and psychologist could do to people with LSD when they were studying this and THEIR ACTUAL GOAL was to make people experience these periods of complete and total blackout where they would have absolutely no recollection of anything they had done or said when they came out of the their blackout.

n500
2 years ago
Derren Brown created a Manchurian candidate in his show ‘The Assassin’. It’s fascinating to watch. He even had the candidate completing firearms training, which they were not aware of.

Yusuke Urameshi
2 years ago
Victor Marchetti, who had held several positions at the CIA before resigning in 1969 stated in 1992 that the CIA routinely conducted disinformation campaigns and that CIA mind control research continued. He called the claim that the program had been abandoned a cover story.

Alejandro Lopez
2 years ago
I know Joe is more mainstream now but he needs to have more interviews like this. Let’s get a few new world order, alien, and clockwork elf interviews, man!

Mark Hunt
4 months ago
The CIA needs to be dismantled and everyone thrown in jail

Tony Maiorano
3 weeks ago
To me, three words have always gone together : Oswald, Sirhan sirhan , MK- Ultra. The Manchutian Candidate was really a documentary made to look like fiction.

afrodrift2
3 months ago
I still just can’t grasp how these “agencies ” still exist knowing what we know about them!!!

Lendall Pitts
1 year ago
It’s not all that often that I hear an interview with an author and say “Wow, I’ve got to read this guy’s book.”

deniseguzzardo
5 months ago
This was the BEST JRE interview I’ve ever listened to 💣💥🔥

Diana Flkr
2 months ago (edited)
I used to never believe in people being able to be hypnotized. I know for a fact now it is true and can be done . My best friend was invited to be on a show and he was one of the guests that was invited up on the stage among several other people. Some of the people were not hypnotized but my friend and three other people were the last ones sitting on stage. When people came out of the trance they were asked to go sit back down in their chair in the audience. The hypnotist had my friend doing some very strange things how do I know he wasn’t faking it because he couldn’t hold a straight face while he was doing these things if he was knowingly doing them. He never laughed or broke a smile while he was doing these things on stage one of the things that the hypnotist made them do was.. he said to the four people on the stage that there was a horrible odor coming from the person next to them. He said to put your face in the other person’s lap where the odor was coming from everybody on stage did it without breaking a smile. Do you honestly think they would have done that knowingly, putting their nose in someone else’s lap there was only one girl on the stage and three men. Do you think men would do that to each other, no! My friend was on the stage for about an hour and 15 minutes he had the four people go out in the audience and lap dance and the guys would lap dancing with other guys. My friend would have never done that unless he was hypnotized. When they came to they didn’t know what had happened and wanted to know when the show was going to start .

Caroline Capon
4 months ago
I am mind-blown seeing this author—of a book that truly effed with my head as prescribed reading for my freshman year of Colorado College (where the freshman orientation activity was viewing the Russian Roulette scenes of torture in The Deer Hunter”:

They had us discuss both this man’s book “The Things They Carried” and “The Deer Hunter” over microbrew kegs and wings..🤔 I am mindblown and grateful for being exposed to him then and now.

In 2022 realizing “The Things (They/He) Carried.”

And I don’t say they/he.

Ha

Marty Procaccio
2 years ago
I’ve been a Bay Area resident all 37 years of my life, and it’s no secret to anyone who is part of my dad’s generation that since 64 the CIA was doing mind control experiments with LSD at the Veterans Medical Center in Menlo Park, and stealing samples was absurdly easy. If you wanted to participate they took all comers. Before it was criminalized and the first Owsley improvement of the formula were made, the government’s LSD-25/Delysid was supposed to be the most potent euphoric acid ever. Coincidentally enough, the same facility at that VA Center in Menlo Park has been my methadone clinic for years. It’s a weird facility.

James McCracken
2 years ago
This is one of the reasons why a free press is necessary, it’s unfortunate when you have to question both sides.

☁︎ Sidney Smith ☁︎
1 year ago
How this doesn’t have over a million views by now is completely beyond me

HardStyle Grandpa
2 years ago
I believe we are all the victim of the upgraded version: Social Media!

m1lkcoupon
2 years ago
I doubt Joe will ever publicly discuss “pizza gate” or any modern “conspiracy” ever again. He’s too high profile now and scared of getting the boot or he really has sold out. He used to contribute a lot more to these conversations but now he just acts dumb or acts like it’s in the past.
Its doubtful Alex Jones will ever make another appearance here.

Bradley Nowell
1 month ago
This is by far the best podcast I have ever heard from Joe’s channel

Mikey
2 weeks ago
Manhunt one and 2 introduced me too mk ultra when iwas a kid in the very early 2000s didn’t know till I got s little older there was truths to some of the aspects of the game lol

Jake Dee
2 years ago
“San Francisco in the middle sixties was a very special time and place to be a part of. Maybe it meant something. Maybe not, in the long run, but no explanation, no mix of words or music or memories can touch that sense of knowing that you were there and alive in that corner of time and the world. Whatever it meant”.
Hunter S Thompson

Dean Storm
2 years ago
I absolutely loved this episode. Does anyone have any recommandations of JRE podcasts that are similar to this one?

Yupheng
1 year ago
I think MK has found a way to brain wash in a more significant way. It’s thru our phones, everyone is now addicted to it

IronSharpensIron 45
5 months ago (edited)
Just ask my wife and her mom ( Cheyenne Lakota Sioux native’s) how the Government treated them and their ancestors, how those blankets worked out for them. My mother-in-law has told me stories about how the government put Catholic organizations on the reservations to gut them of their heritage and culture, they made her cut her hair Force them to stop speaking their native language and practicing their culture and learning it in the schools she went to a Catholic boarding school and told me many horrifying stories of how those Catholic nuns treated her.

C_M
2 years ago
anyone in a government position or any power position who has secret activities and silences them, are the literal movie villains of life.

Stiff Richard
2 years ago (edited)
Fact: Manson had an bizarre control over his followers. There were other “cults” but that one was pretty far out.

High-C Fruit punch
1 year ago
Didn’t think I could love joe’s podcast anymore, but it appears I’ve been proven wrong

Jack Longhearse
2 years ago
Why does MK Ultra get big again like every 10 years?

Hadi Hassan
2 years ago
Joe needs to read the Confessions of an Economic Hitman and get John Perkins on the show

Hawaiiansky11
5 months ago
“to make people commit violent acts against their own will with no memory of it.” My mind immediately went to Lee Harvey Oswald.
And, now it’s going to the Aurora CO movie theater killer. Both murderers had this scared, unsure expressions as though they had just waken up from a nightmare and had no idea where they were.

Manuel Filipe Rodrigues Vieira
1 year ago
Gos, i wish i could speak like this guy. Calm, cool, collected and well known about everything is getting out of his mouth.

Betise
4 months ago
Make the whole podcast available please, very interesting man

Kathy Lewis
1 year ago
Dr Ewan Cameron was an MKULTRA shrink at the Allen Institute which is affiliated with McGill University. I know several people who are survivors, or children of survivors, of Cameron’s “treatment ” called Psychic Driving. The 1st whistle-blower was Val Olikoff, who was the wife of a Canadian MP. Another was a doctor who wrote a book called IN THE SLEEP ROOM. I believe that all victims who came forward were compensated. Cameron was a CIA paid psychiatrist who died while climbing a cliff in Upstate New York. I’ve been at several conferences in Chicago where there were many MKULTRA survivors and their therapists.

Aaron S
2 years ago
Fuck, imagine tripping on acid and having no idea why you are feeling that way. That’d be god damn terrifying

The Church of Common Sense AKA The C.O.C.S
2 weeks ago (edited)
John Lennon’s shooter possessed a book called
“A Catcher in the Rye”
His assassin Mark David Chapman stood on the corner calmly waiting for the police and reading this publication.

Almost 20 years to the day another assassin Nathan Gail shoots and ends the life of Darell Lance Abbott
AKA: Dimebag Darrell.
Abbott’s shooter only owned 2 books one of those being “A Catcher in the Rye”

A Catcher in the Rye is a known MK-ULTRA trigger book….

Two very well known musicians and rebel types, known anti conformists, anti Government. Both avid cannabis users and outspoken anti religion rockstars.

What are the odds?!?!……

BlueMerle7
2 years ago
I might have to start reading books because of this guy hes very interesting

Jason Robertson
2 years ago
MK Ultra provides a glimpse of where government and intelligence headspace lies.

i’m sorry, thank You, please
2 years ago
The first several times I tried edible weed, it felt like a memory. It felt like watching my favorite TV show from childhood that I had forgotten.
Is that normal? Was it just a re-ignition of my imagination and sensitivity?

Jack Ryan
4 days ago
I can’t imagine spending 20 years trying to uncover one thing. Damn

Gi Al
2 years ago
Anyone wonder if this mk program perhaps still exists but perhaps a hundred times worse, and perhaps the technology is even more sinister? Perhaps china has good morals and decided not to do this very same thing but worse?

Sam Crocker
3 months ago
This is DEFINITELY still going on at festivals today !!

Leap
2 years ago
I feel as if mind controlling is still going on ?!?!? 🤔

Nick Williams
2 years ago
The problem I’ve always got with the people who go on about MK-ULTRA is that they tend to focus on what the program was trying to accomplish while completely ignoring the fact that it completely failed to accomplish it. The result of MK-ULTRA was, “Why bother trying to create a Manchurian Candidate against a person’s will when we’ve got people lined up around the block volunteering to be turned into James Bond or Rambo?”

Charlotte Tatlock
2 years ago
Can always count on Joe to get you through 👍👏

Adnan A
2 years ago
Makes you wonder what the government is up to nowadays

Deprogram-a-ganza
2 years ago
In an alternate universe where we had a second revolution and dethroned the CIA, someone submitted all this for a script and the production company said it’s too over the top

BushidoKi
3 months ago
can you imagine being a victim of MK Ultra? waking up in jail finding out you shot up people and now way to prove it was induced by the very people arresting you?

Epix
2 years ago
This whole time I thought the Matrix was just a fictional movie, after watching this. Not so much….

Lord Ccrack
2 months ago
imagine taking a kid to a bar at midnight, and leaving them outside on their own

trash parents, no one else is to blame

Matthew Maguire
2 years ago
Thanks for validating all the paranoia I sensed during that time….still echoes now.

Jayna Martino
4 months ago
I read this book & it was absolutely MINDBLOWING! Changed my views on everything I thought I knew.

Elliott Lederer
2 years ago
Read his book. It’s fantastic and highly detailed. Can’t recommend enough.

John Sweeney
2 years ago
Could his headaches have been the side affects from previous MK. ?

Negro UnChained
2 years ago
Y’all should check out a lady named Cathy O’Brian,, her story is incredible!

p caz
2 years ago
definitely weird to hear about experiments at lackland hospital..ill just say i had the strangest experience there many years ago and on the least i can relate to the migraines as well.

Ricky
2 years ago
Joe needs to apologize to Eddie. He’s always shooting down eddies CIA claims

Soul Sphere Productions
4 months ago
MK Ultra is still alive, well and thriving and people don’t even realize it, I do.

Gator Don’t Play No Shit
2 years ago
I’ve been patiently waiting for him to interview this guy since he brought it up last week.

leah lindsey
3 months ago
love Joe and his interviews the mk ultra topic always has me thinking about where we are at in society with the invention of social media. if anyone wants a detailed account on mk ultra Truthstreamedia did a phenomenal documentary on this topic that will blow you out of the water called “Of The Minds of Men”

Sinciti
2 years ago
These Mortal Kombat stories are getting way too complicated. Whatever happened to just punching Shao Khan in the mouth?

My 3 Sons
5 months ago
Things seem legit when these guys talk about such topics, then they hit a point in the conversation where I say to myself, oops they gone too far, I don’t believe that is possible. Then Joe asked a hard direct question and the dude has to back track his point. 😆

Wayward Writers Inn
2 years ago
The other day I asked my 7 year old daughter how she thought the pyramids were created, heavy stones, etc. she said, “maybe they just discovered really big stones and made them into pyramids?” I was floored lol

Brian Davey
1 year ago
this was an excellent book, like the guy confesses, he doesnt know why the murders happened, he just knows that the whole helter skelter defense was bull shit

Zack Reynolds
2 years ago
It’s not a secret…you just have to even care to find the truth. Most people are willfully ignorant,because they want to feel in control..they want to feel safe.

invalid argument
1 month ago
Imagine using this technology FOR GOOD

Deborah Carroll
2 years ago (edited)
when i lived in hawaii i knew of two people who were programmed with the bluebird tattoo

one was a friend of mine and she committed suicide and one was an expressive man and artist that healed with a variety of therapies after surviving horrific trauma in the Vietnam war

Mr Avatar
5 months ago
5 jee is 60ghtz, experiments started in the 50’s and 60’s. The first experiments were to see if they could mind control mice, rats, horses, bulls and sharks. They succeeded. Now its being deployed worldwide.

Matthew Martin
5 months ago
There’s something oddly soothing about the way this guy speaks, with good diction & a soft tone. Rod Serling comes to mind.

N.A. McIntosh
2 years ago
For the whole scoop read the biography on the man who ran MK Ultra…. “Poisoner in Chief”

the book on tape is on youtube also….. amazing information!!!

NO NAME HERE
2 years ago
Get Alex Jones back on asap!! I’d love to hear 3 hours of non stop theories from him!!!!

Jimmy Gritz
4 months ago
Jay Myers documentary on the entire process that is now perfected is incredibly interesting to say the least

Glen Short
13 days ago
This guy is an excellent story teller.
Goldfish
Goldfish
2 months ago (edited)
Imagine you would find out that Will Smith slapping Chris Rock was in somehow influenced ny MKultra.
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Sierra1 Tngo
Sierra1 Tngo
2 years ago
I think was renamed “Project Monarch” and it’s represented with a butterfly,many artists of Hollywood has a picture with a butterfly or a tattoo like that,do some research and you will see,you decide if you believe or not
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Skywalker Jones
Skywalker Jones
2 years ago
I believe this is where the whole idea of Project Montauk came from, what everyone now knows as “Stranger Things” (not exactly but Stranger Things was supposed to be called Project Montauk). I just remember searching about all of this when I was a teenager living near there cause pothead conspiracy theorists would say shit like “Plumb Island does all kinds of experiments on animals and people” and then I went down this wormhole of information from MK Ultra to “Patterning” to “The Montauk Experiment”.
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Chip yard
Chip yard
2 years ago
This guy is very careful in not overstating the facts and running to conclusions. Meanwhile the comments section for these videos is overrun with wild conclusions with no facts and/or misinformation stated as fact.
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Trapper Kreeper
Trapper Kreeper
9 days ago
“They did a lot of crazy shit back then.”

Am I supposed to believe they stopped?
tokr72
tokr72
2 years ago
Finally someone sheds a sliver of light on the truth about Manson Family. About fuggin time.
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Sethu Dinesh
Sethu Dinesh
2 years ago
I used to watch The Omen, Exorcist, K-horror, and go to sleep like meh or run in the pitch dark at 4:30 AM through eerie lonely roads without a care (kerala,india), but after watching JFK movie and going through interviews I went to sleep with my grandma for 3 days. This was some 7 years ago. I was scared shitless. No kidding, I’m the goto ‘brave guy’ in all my social circles. Now in 2020, im fucking creeped out here after watching this. I mean, I ONLY get scared of this. Even if it’s just conspiracy, just the official story is creepy enough. And this is happening to the world’s most powerful man. And imagine what could happen to us.
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C V
C V
2 years ago (edited)
Most famous MK Ultra project other than Manson was Jim Morrison, what a shame
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TheBanjoShow
TheBanjoShow
3 months ago
Order 66 was probably inspired by MK Ultra, just as much as darth vader’s helmet is based off the german stahlhelm used in both world wars, just as much as anything in entertainment media often has a history related to its origin.
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A D
A D
2 years ago
If anyone finds this remotely interesting, check out Paul Bonacci’s recorded deposition. He talks about its effects on him. Specifically the MONARCH portion
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Kearstin Ivory
Kearstin Ivory
2 years ago
Can you imagine all the hell people that knew what was happening went through?

“Ok, John, whatever you say. You went to a brothel and the government gave you LSD. I think you should lay off the beer, pal.”🥴🥴
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barthamellow1138
barthamellow1138
2 years ago
wow this is mindblowing..puts things like the finders incident into focus alot more. wouldnt be suprised if marion pettie was involved in this circle or created as another asset like manson ect. by the cia/oss
Kiki and her nappy weave
Kiki and her nappy weave
2 years ago
I did a presentation(book report) in college on this subject, presented to the class…no one believed/believes this really happened.
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moffettFPV
moffettFPV
2 weeks ago
I firmly believe that Mk is still being used to create headlines.
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PainGoingCrazy
PainGoingCrazy
1 month ago (edited)
I have a story of how I MKUltra’d myself, and now I’ve nearly gone insane
coldburn909
coldburn909
2 years ago (edited)
Joe “Can DMT be used as a mind control substance?” Rogan
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Laura Salveson
Laura Salveson
5 months ago
I just ordered his book. Can’t wait to read it!
Justin Nardine
Justin Nardine
2 years ago
Joe should read the texts he’s gotten from Alex Jones recently
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chipsthedog1
chipsthedog1
2 months ago
Anyone interested in this or who just wants to see it in action I recommend watching Derren Brown the assassin. Derren is a British hypnosis guru and at one of his shows he tests several people to see who is most receptive. Once he chooses a man he gets him to sign a release agreeing to be filmed and hypnotised but he believes it is just for the show sitting in ice cold water and the usual tricks but over several weeks under trance he is conditioned to react to certain stimuli by picking up a gun and shooting a target. Just how he is conditioned is fascinating using smell as well as sight and starting with a bullseye target but slowly moving up to actual figures. The climax comes when he is at a show starring Stephen Fry (the target) in front of a normal audience except for the one section he & his girlfriend sit in which is filled with actors who know what to expect and obviously Stephen Fry knows what to expect and has a fake blood pack on just like they do in the movies. After the show begins a lady comes in and sits right in front of “the mark” she is wearing polkadots which is one of the triggers she is also wearing a particular scent also a trigger she sets down a bag with a gun in and then gives the coded command word and without hesitation he grabs the gun and empties it aiming at Mr Fry who collapses on stage, the audience screams but our guy just sits down without a care in the world. Afterwards they take him backstage and ask him what happened and he doesn’t remember anything just being at the show. They then show him the footage and the shock on his face is unreal you can see him go green. We’ll worth watching I will leave a link below as I know it’s on youtube
Alec Fleming
Alec Fleming
2 years ago
This topic has been around and still is around since forever!!!
TRoNiCsIX gaMIng
TRoNiCsIX gaMIng
5 months ago
This is why the covid agenda works! Let me say it with a song you all know… “It’s in your head, in your head. Zombie. Zombie… Zombie!”
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Botak Bishop
Botak Bishop
2 years ago
Joe thinking: aerosol, maybe I can find a way to make DMT into an aerosol..
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DBspecials
DBspecials
1 month ago
Well, this is probably how they got to John Lennon, and others I could think of. his music was like a peace movement in itself, and was seen as a threat to some war mongers I’m sure. in particular, look for high profile surviving suspects who can’t seem to find a reason to this day for the murder they committed.
Micah B.
Micah B.
2 years ago
Normally you click these clip videos with interesting titles; they talk about it for 2 seconds and ramble about something else. This one, this one was fascinating.
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Nathan P
Nathan P
4 months ago (edited)
So as far as the part about the little girl who went missing I have too many questions. First off why was it said that the parents went to the bar at around midnight and let there’s kids be alone in the parking lot, as if it is a normal situation?? Just sounds crazy. But after everything happens they find the airman who is the alleged suspect and then the body of the little girl, and the airman has no recollection or knowledge about what happened. I just am confused and a little apprehensive to believe that the airman was part of one of these experiments. Because even if he was a test subject how the hell would they know about the parents going to the bar and the girl being outside? I would think they had to know or else it means the airman was coincidentally at that same parking lot at the same time as the girl.also is the idea or end goal of mk ultra was to create killers who forget their crime , why would they target a little girl to be the victim? I want to believe it but I’m leaning more towards the airman for whatever reason happen to see the little girl and since she was in a bar parking lot he was probly at the bar getting drunk which can explain the “amnesia” effect. He could have just snapped for some reason or he could have been hiding a secret that he was into kids and he made it his reality. I could be totally wrong about everything.
Edit
I stopped after the initial story of the girl and made my comment above and after I continued to watch and it is said that this could have been and experiment gone wrong. After hearing that I could see that being plausible but I’d still have to second guess all possible scenarios
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Candi Bauer-Rand
Candi Bauer-Rand
5 days ago
watching this makes me wonder if they still are doing this too society without their knowledge, in light of all the recent shootings etc and the state of our world
Terrance Bia
Terrance Bia
2 years ago
Ive always thought the Denver Movie Premier shooting was out of sync and this clarifys my theory I love coming back to old subjects from when I was a kid watching and hearing new people coming into the spotlight and sharing their findings is such a awesome thing about the future, new things come to the surface
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Kay G
Kay G
2 years ago
The timing of this video and “Out of Shadows” documentary is very swell.
Joe, I think you’re gonna see dem aliens soon enough (if you haven’t found out already).
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judelainegazes
judelainegazes
2 days ago
Have a strong heart, mind, body, and soul. I know this is still happening and I am also certain that it won’t be for much longer. These braindead people are going down and all the 3 letter groups cannot stop the takedown.
Robert Lussier
Robert Lussier
2 years ago
I have a friend that enlisted in the Army in the 80’s. He said they pulled these mind control/LSD experiments on his unit, and he washed out of basic training because of it.
Do I believe it, or not?
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ACR
ACR
2 years ago
Top guest Joe has had in show.
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Kali The Champ
Kali The Champ
13 days ago
LOOOOOVE how he said it “used to be a program”
Alan McBride
Alan McBride
2 years ago
The late great Dave McGowan was all over MK Ultra years ago.
Please check him out.
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William Whitten
William Whitten
2 months ago
Agent Orange was in fact a biological weapon used in Korea and Vietnam. Napalm is also considered a chemical weapon that is illegal for use in war, like phospherous bombs.
Bringo Brangus
Bringo Brangus
2 weeks ago
Ahhh, the good old days when our federal agencies only committed light treason.
ThePearguru98
ThePearguru98
2 years ago
Joe why would you not even read this guy’s book before having him on
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rico72
rico72
4 months ago
The Man talked for 6 minutes before Rogan said a word. AMAZING
Hunt-fish-mine-gather
Hunt-fish-mine-gather
10 days ago
Keep writing Tom, we need another banger out of you before you get Ark-an-cided.
Smart S
Smart S
2 years ago
It happened in Canada but our government refuses to speak about it.
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Robert Novack
Robert Novack
2 years ago
I have never seen Joe so focused.
Meredith Freeman
Meredith Freeman
2 months ago
As this was Haight-Ashbury during the “Summer of Love” 1967, I have to wonder if members of the Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane were subjected to these experiments. 🤔
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K August
K August
2 years ago
Anyone notice how long Joe let the man speak at the beginning of this clip? Where else can you see something like this?
Respect…
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MAGIC CARPET MUSIC
MAGIC CARPET MUSIC
5 months ago (edited)
There were rooms decked out with all kinds of psychedelic artwork and designs at Montauk Air Force base, where, just as in haight-ashbury, unwitting inductees were subjected to not only em/rf but drug/LSD experiments, and in fact Tim Leary was directly involved with some of the activities at Montauk..

Level 9
2 years ago
You had everyone at ‘Secret.’ Clever.

Jmiah REAL ONE
2 weeks ago
I think I’m a Victim of this type of program. I have flash memories of things I’ve never done.

Ttucks
2 years ago
I was on lackland for basic military training. Had no idea that it was at the center of something like this.

Fares Hajjar
2 weeks ago
They’ve had 49 years to perfect it.

TrueCrimeRadio
2 years ago
Well I’ve been convinced the information in this book is too important for me to be ignorant. Getting on audible right now.

The DudeMan
2 years ago
Great explanation of the program and the agenda…

CyberLA
2 weeks ago
Jolly West was also the Dr who interviewed Jack Ruby after he shot Lee Harvey Oswald. The guy is everywhere!

z
2 months ago (edited)
12:42 Another guest catches Joe lying about reading a book. Why does he do it? Like when he claimed he had read ‘Going Clear’ but it slowly became apparent that he had only watched the documentary and didn’t know anything from the book.

Jennifer Grove
2 years ago
Joe – Did you watch Wormwood on Netflix yet? If not, please do. This is like pretty much exactly what it’s about.

Christopher Morales
4 months ago
12:52 Jamie finally gets acknowledged

PoppyB2011
1 year ago
Freud and Bernay’s already figured that out in 1910. And before that, Plato figured it out when he created the archetype for Christ, in the story of his Socrates.

lindsaynoellov
2 months ago
I heart Tom O’Neal .

Juniper Brooke
2 years ago
I’ve always wondered how many serial killers and mass shootings were prompted through mind control.

Daniel Crane
2 years ago
I never knew this shit, thanks for the helping to expose this DEEP knowledge JRE

Stray Tarnish
5 months ago
If you’re looking for a needle in a haystack you burn the haystack and carefully sift the ashes through fine mesh assuming the magnet hasn’t already attracted the needle out of the haystack.

robert miller
2 months ago
That’s messed up that they’d use prior military as an experiment like that where’s the respect at

Ma ON
2 weeks ago
Given the recent rash of suspicious mass shootings, you have to wonder how successful the program was.

Crogunson 34
2 years ago
Gun buy back from memory happened in very early 91 my brother in law was security for the one in braybrook melbourne victoria australia.Mate those semi auto rifle and shotguns were taken to sims metals and “melted” down.How many went missing god only knows.

Cocky Rooster
2 years ago
Plot twist: Turns out JR is also a product of MK ultra……

Archie 3K
2 years ago
It’s also possible that they could have fucked with people (like Manson), the program not actually worked as intended, BUT you happened to take people with a propensity to be crazy and pushed them over that edge…. In other words, take someone that’s already inclined to go nuts and then putting them through all of this stuff. That’s a good recipe to end up with some people going apeshit.

Sherry Aleshire
2 months ago
Love ya Joe 😘 GREAT guest.

Chris Jones
5 days ago
Imagine asking your child what they did in school today.

snicky58
1 month ago
O’Neill’s book is excellent.

Estevan Torres
2 years ago
“It’s called the American dream cause you have to be asleep to believe it

Mr Byam
2 years ago
7:05 “the possible end in 73” translation….. it never ended and is probably still going on today but at a more advanced level. Man listen

DommyBear
2 years ago
I’ve been waiting for a mk ultra video for years!

zaiwen3
2 years ago
If you were in the govt, i dunno how you can actually tolerate this mind control thing being done on actual human beings

John G
4 months ago
I was targeted in 2013.. horrible and terrifying. Was judged for speaking out was forced to get mental evaluation to return to work.. I suffer from PTSD and cried everyday for 6 years . I’m mostly healed from the trauma but the memories scare me. The images they place in your head are like visions and the pinch in the center of the brain and the feeling of terror is something I’m afraid of.

Slade Wilson
2 years ago
Joe could give a rats add about Covid. Love it.

Marcelle Coletti
2 months ago
This video and comment section would be incomplete without mention of Arizona Wilder and Cathy O’Brien

Patrick Oh! PhD
4 days ago
JOLLY WEST ENJOYED A LONG CAREER As Chief Psychiatrist at UCLA-NPI, one of the most prestigious academic psychiatric research, training and treatment centers in the country, as did his wife, Kathryn West, PhD , Chief Psychologist at the Brentwood VA/UCLA Psychology Service, As a PostDoc, I took a seminar from Kathryn West: I Remember it as we were discussing the fall of the Berlin Wall which was occurring that week. I was invited to participate in a several day Tavistock Training on “Group Relations” which was one of the most bizarre and unsettling experiences of My career, yet a powerful validation about unconscious group process. Jolly and Kathryn West together committed suicide, AN EXTREMELY UNUSUAL act for a couple to plan and execute. They both got out before it was too late and the shit hit the fan. The psychiatric community was shocked. Their sons wrote their obituary in the LA times.

Big Daddy Romeo
5 months ago (edited)
Came out in the 70s and the population still don’t believe it in the 2000s and they showing you this in movies and people still don’t want to believe it

Brandon Dismang
2 years ago
The mention of aerosol spray reminds me of the first Austin Powers movie. The “FEMBOTS” spray some type of gas out of their tiggle bitties; rendering Austin unconscious. I wonder if this is a MK Ultra reference.

jared bonds
3 weeks ago
If anyone out there truly believes these programs have stopped or were stopped, you’re highly delusional and naive to the core.

Diego G
1 month ago
I appreciate that people came out and proceeded with a victimization program wich a lot of ppl were put through if you feel like till this day 2022 stuff like this happens send me a massage I would like to help even a little talk can help

Dj Diako
3 months ago
In 2020 Vin desil was in a movie like what’s described in begginjng he kept being brainwashed that someone killed his wife but it was different each time till one day he seen all of who he had killed and found the truth

Shiesty Savage 🥶👌
5 months ago
Joe – “oh jesus… what does that mean?” 😂

Malcolm X Box
2 years ago
Where can I get an Eddie “Look Into It” Bravo t shirt? I gotta get that hitter boy!

veksone77
2 years ago
There’s nothing secret about MK Ultra, it’s been well documented.

Silus
2 years ago
It all started in 1992 when Midway released the first Mortal Kombat to what was known as “arcades”.

Lex
4 months ago
I’m into many “conspiracy theories” meaning I am aware of many and actually believe quite a few. Call me an idiot for believing some or not believing enough but MK ultra, for my generation at least has been turned into a meme and with that it’s just so difficult for me to believe or want to understand. To learn more I think I must deconstruct my prior narrative and just be open. Anyways…just saying it’s hard for a skeptic out here guys…

hddwg1002003
4 months ago
You know it seems like everything like this happens after we had operation paperclip and also made deals with certain German key players in WWII. Hmmmm

Alain Vosselman
5 months ago
There is NO WAY for our brains to fathom how utterly sick some individuals are. Unfortunately societies embrace that kind of sickness, promote it. As long as this type of sickness is inventing new ‘technology’ or is creating wealth… all is good.

weavergrad
2 years ago
They learned, look at how it’s working brilliantly now.

Jim Lahey
2 years ago
Our entire reality has been fabricated through majik.

Not your Fall Guy, Daddy or Son
3 months ago
They always do this with pavlovian type triggers and symbolism especially in movies. Even Joe Rogan is part of it. In Zoo Keeper he’s chasing Kevin James on bikes and whipping him in the back like a slave as James is wearing a 🌞 Sun shirt attaching the rising sun to black people. They play Carry on My Wayward Son in the beginning of the movie too. Quentin Tarantino and Stanley Kubrick does this a lot in their movies attaching the 🌞 Sun to blacks in this binary black/white game. Definitely some Manchurian type candidates out there.

Daily Llama
4 months ago
I’m surprised YT hasn’t put a “context warning” That says,

Warning: MKULTRA has told us to tell you it didn’t exist. 🤩🤯🤪

donnie harold harris
2 months ago (edited)
I was brought into one of the safe houses as a 15-year-old street-intelligent prostitute in Indianapolis. It was being run by a dr. from Purdue @ IUPUI. 1967-69 I was given LSD 25 twice. I was trained to train others how to spot homosexuals threw observation alone. I had my first encounter wife the feds at 12 or 13. I was given several tests to see what I was. 1963-66. I encountered Charlie Manson twice in LA At 15, the month before he made the Tate killings. I left Hollywood the week before the massacre. He was trying to recruit my identical twin and me into his group. We were from Indianapolis, where Charlie had lived on Villa street. My paper route included villa street. It is a small world.

EDDIE RAMIREZ
5 months ago
Joe loves that brothel acid conspiracy

butteredpoptart
2 months ago
I recently started researching where my body goes when I donate it if I die and learned that the American military gets a lot of spines. I swear. Wtf are they doing with them??

Half Space
12 days ago
So the Bourne trilogy is really based on a true story

Sven Zwaenepoel
2 months ago
wish i could watch the whole thing

Breakfast food and dark haired women
2 years ago
71 MK ultra test subjects giving this a thumbs down

donnie harold harris
2 months ago
Just ordered the CD. Thanks Joe.

Seb
2 years ago
I’ve been waiting for this subject to be brought up for months

gotohellaaron
3 months ago
I used to hear voices in my head. Was I MK Ultra’d?

Steve Thaysen
5 months ago
Anytime anyone tells you that you should “trust doctors”, tell them about the doctors that worked in the MkUltra programs. That’ll change their mind!

Luke Lengic
2 months ago
I always thought MK Ultra was some special edition or sequel to Mortal Kombat….

James Mac
2 years ago
What is MK Ultra called now? Perhaps it is perfected and we are all puppets in a matrix.

CoalCracker Pyro
2 years ago
See, you should always trust the government. 🤣 They have your best interest in mind🤣

Ashe Higgs
2 weeks ago
Any takers on a bet that every alien abduction story is actually an MK-UKTRA story. The timeline matches up with alien abduction stories kicking off in the 50s!

adrienne tynes
4 months ago (edited)
Its real, very real!! My ex-husband was in the airforce his bestfriend Dr. Curtis longs a psychiatrist cover up my ex-husbands crimes. Me and our children have some memory loss. I’m at my wits end on how no judge will deal with him. He ran for mayor and in the media with lots of politicians.

ben hart
2 years ago
Tom”the were using brothels”
Joe”have u heard of operation midnight express”
Tom”thats what I’m talking about”Joe proceeds to tell him about it

TheFunkybert
4 months ago
Neil Young must be MK Ultra now.. 😵‍💫

Chris Schmid
2 years ago
It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen.

olive
3 weeks ago
I was on mushrooms at a Christmas party one time. We had a hypnotist. That was the single most terrifying thing I’ve ever done. I was stuck to the ceiling watching my body do things and myself do things. I couldn’t escape or stop what was happening. Terrifying shit mind games

J Dam
3 months ago
This needs to be shared worldwide so all the new generation can see what these governments like to test on people nothing but little pawns in there game

Manu De Backer
11 days ago
I think Woodstock was just one big social experiment where they could measure the effects of lsd on a massive scale while torturing everybody practically 24 hours non stop with loud weird music. I mean, the stuff was handed out like candy. Where did that all came from?

metaglypto
2 weeks ago
Look up that book by John Marks he mentions. I read it 20 years ago, and it still blows my mind.

Crystal Crockett
3 months ago
I watched a pod cast of that one famous Mexican actor who said he was locked up with Manson band that Manson was actually able to hypnotize people in fuckin jail. That’s so crazy.

Jason Troy
2 years ago
Mk ultra is true but for manson he was crazy as bat shit long before mk ultra came along . His antics / crimes evolved from childhood to adult . If ones looks hard enough they will always find connections regardless .

Sophia Branam
3 months ago
Watch the documentary “Minds of Men” here on youtube.4 hrs long but very good.Gives the almost complete history and details of these mind control experiments.

Rustedblade
2 years ago
MK Ultra? Today we just call it Psychiatry, and its working better than they ever dreamed possible!

R W
2 years ago
Is it possible that serial killer Dean Corll also had connections to MK-Ultra? He was in the army in the mid-60s but managed to get himself an honorable discharge after only 10 months. He was a homosexual who apparently started his killing spree after service (again, at a time when the CIA was very interested in sexual blackmail operations). He recruited/manipulated/indoctrinated at least a couple teenage kids in his endeavors. There were allegations that were never proven but probably never really probed of possible connections to child sex slavery rings that we might dismiss if not for the fact that at least one of Corll’s photographed victims has never been identified. John Wayne Gacy (and probable unidentified accomplices) might be another one worth further examination.

Chuck Frazier
12 days ago
I like Rogan’s but he’s pretty clueless. I also hate that “experts” say MK Ultra is a past program. That’s stupid. It’s going on today and directed by the Tavistock Institute in London.

Garrett Dschaak
3 months ago
Where do I find more information about this “programming, and deprogramming” of the brain, were all the academics like tim, and Terrence sending us to our unaware slaughters, and what about Jerry??? I’m freaking out man!

JBG A.
3 weeks ago
Alex Jones has always educated those willing to listen about this and many more topics that are off limits to mainstream controlled media.

ShillsDon’tSpookMe
2 months ago
No “was” about it. MK Ultra is still going strong.

John Sweeney
2 years ago
Imagine all the fails that just got false cremations or written off as overdosed junkies

Derek Wilson
2 years ago
Absolutely insane and raises SO many questiond

Jack Sparrow
4 months ago
Everytime I eat boomers I end up at this convo. Still can’t quite make it all make sense but the spiritual guides always lead me here

Debra-Q’tist Catlady
2 months ago (edited)
Why didn’t he talk about abuse at early ages that splits and compartmentalized the brain. Joe needs to interview Cathy O’Brian.

dadedraak
2 years ago
Very interesting podcast

rough Mastermind
2 months ago
Maybe dr West inserted that part when he was sexually abused at 8
And he’s brain developed ptsd
That memory was so vivid and clear is was all that he kept thinking about and eventually he lost it.

Severus Floki
2 years ago
Through torture. Don’t forget torture.
They wanted to create slaves.

Johnn Welgos
1 month ago
They are STILL doing this on a scale that would boggle your mind. So much deeper & more evil than tou can imagine

Quantum Leap
2 years ago
I’ve been getting the MK Ultra/Electronic Harassment since 1997.

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Jared Tomochak
2 years ago
I still can’t believe more people don’t talk about Roman Pulaski being a monster I’m glad to see these two calling him what he is

owl owl
3 months ago
I read Tom O’Neill’s book after I first saw this interview and recommend it. Very readable and informative. Very well documented. This man dedicated his life to exposing corruptions behind the scene.

Rosemary Blake
3 months ago
What a fascinating interview and Joe Rogan is genuinely interested and engaged. As an English person, I am

Julz Gulz
5 months ago
My mother went to school with the LaBianca children. She can’t even hear about the crimes it’s so upsetting knowing her lovely classmates lost their parents this way. We often forget the victims of this crime and focus on the infamy and celebrity of the perpetrators. The son was just a normal, happy, popular high school student who lost his whole family and privacy. So tragic.

iisCritical
5 months ago
This is easily one of the best interviews Joe’s ever done. Highly underrated in my opinion.

Charles Desmonda
4 months ago
This is why one should remain skeptical in cases like this, anything can potentially be covered up, fabricated, distorted. Don’t trust “official” narratives at face value, think for yourself and research for yourself.

SJD Prime
6 months ago
This guy is easily one of the most interesting historians if you could even call him that to watch. Makes news from when my father was born sound like it happened yesterday. Great job.

j swets
8 months ago
When someone who has spent 20 years writing a book about a single event says “I hate to speculate”, you know he means it.

Chris
10 months ago
Amazes me how the same people who support the Me too movement would give Roman Polanski a standing ovation. These are the same people giving speeches at the Academy Awards lecturing us.

Danny Colon
3 months ago (edited)
The Man’s theory is correct. Check out who Sharon’s Tate Dad Was ..he was an Army officer who specialized in Psy Ops

Sandra Natali
1 month ago
At the time of Manson Family, my family lived around 5 miles from the Spawn ranch. We. would see the family in their bus around the neighborhood, they would go to the supermarkets in the area, go through the trash bins for food. My friends and I would wonder about them but never tried to search them out. We decided they were trouble, so perhaps we had some fear. After they were arrested, we knew that we did right thing, by not allowing our curiosity get the best of us.

Jackson Brown
1 year ago
When authors go on JRE it’s a constant battle to give a good answer and not spoil the book they just spent years writing

Him Bike
1 year ago
Manson looked into Scientology
and said Naw that’s nuts.

John Boy
1 year ago
One of the best episodes. Love how Tom insists on giving context to his stories and how he mentions that he is speculating. Made me go to Spotify just to hear the whole episode.

Kelly Posh
10 months ago
One of my earliest memories is being in downtown L.A. (We lived in the suburbs, about 30 miles away from downtown, but we would go downtown every once in awhile to pick things up like…copies of our birth certificates for school/sports activities. I’m guessing that’s why we were there that day). I must have been about 3 years old.

This day stands out in my memory… I remember walking down the street with my mom and older siblings. We were walking near the courthouse…there were a bunch of people outside the courthouse. And I just remember my mom redirecting us to cross the street from all the courthouse commotion…she grabbed my hand aggressively…and her grip on my hand was so tight it was hurting me as she half dragged me across the street. I remember looking at all the commotion and seeing two women with X’s on their foreheads heading towards the courthouse.

I didn’t put it together until I was a teenager.

Brussel Sprout
4 months ago
I’m 66 years old, grew up in the Bay Area during “the time” and have never been interested in the shadowy kind of glorifying the whole Manson thing. This is such a sensible approach that, for the first time ever, I am interested in reading the story. That Altamont and the end of that whole reign came up tells me this guy has pulled it all together. Sadly, intelligence keeps on pulling their bullshit on people. Excellent interview. I’m getting this book. Thank you.

debgok
3 months ago
The Manson motive rarely mentioned: Manson was running scared on the murder of Gary Hinman and was trying to take the heat off. One of the guys involved was being held by police and was probably likely to ‘sing.’ By initiating sensational murders, he wanted to deflect attention from the Hinman murder which was brutal. No one ever seems to mention this. Considering how diabolical Manson was, it could have been a confluence of many factors, helter skelter being a smokescreen.

Olivia Barrow
1 year ago
After dealing personally with psychopaths and sociopaths.. I realized the less you ask “why” the better. There is never an answer and they aren’t worth the time thinking about because they are not thinking about anybody but themselves. Period

Jean-Luc Picard
2 years ago
Thank god Brad Pitt was there with his dog.

Alice
2 years ago
Just finished this book. What a ride. Cheers for all your hard work, Tom!

B K
2 years ago
Thumbs up for reminding the world Roman Polanski is a monster. Remember the list of celebrities who signed a petition for his exoneration

Ocean Hedonist
10 months ago
I’ll never forget sitting in my parent’s house as a kid with some friends playing Monopoly. There was an interuption in the TV broadcast, and a newscaster came on to report that several people had been discovered slain in Los Angeles. It’s something I’ll always remember.

Ariel Bonzai
12 days ago
I read the book. It’s an amazing account of a man who fell down the rabbit hole. I learned a lot but came away more confused and full of questions than before. I’ve read many many books on the Manson Family. I’m pretty well informed. This book takes it to the next level. Don’t read it unless you’ve read Helter Skelter, Manson , Going Down Fast, the Garbage People and the Family. They are all great page turners and full of fresh information. Something weirder than the murders themselves is going on. As the writer discovers in his Decades long obsession with the most infamous murders of the twentieth century. The Bug interviews with him are demented and distressing.

benny M
5 months ago
Manson told us why he sent them to kill those people. His best friend Bobby beausoleil had been arrested for a murder. He wanted to create a similar crime scene similar to the one Bobby was accused of to suggest the killer / killers were still out there.

Alex Nesrallah
1 year ago (edited)
I have also read that the massacres were meant to cover up a murder committed by one of his strong arms, Bobby Beausoleil. BB had been sent to extort money out a musician acquaintance, Gary Hinman, who supposedly had inherited a large sum of money (he hadn’t). BB tortured Hinman but went too far and killed the poor guy. He left cryptic clues implicatin the Black Panthers. BB was found the next day sleeping in Hinman’s car with blood all over him and the murder weapon in the front seat. Manson sent his people to commit a couple of more brutal murders in the same area to make the BB murder seem to be one in a series of murders by the Black Panthers. Manson sent Tex Watson to make sure they didn’t screw up the job.

Rick Metz
1 year ago
I agree that the motives given by the prosecutors in the Manson trial are bogus; however, I do not agree that the motive was to destroy the hippy and panther movement. It had to be more sinister than that, its more complicated than that if you look at the MKUltra experiments and where they originated.

OsamaLlama420 avs
2 years ago
Thanks for your work Mr. Rogan, so many topics, lines of thought and other inspirations I otherwise wouldn’t have known or bothered giving much thought, you’re getting me back into my brain, I appreciate it~

Jarvin Driftwood
2 years ago
It’s human nature to want to figure everything out but I think Manson is a prime example of someone who we’ll never truly figure out what was really going on in his head. Which is probably for the best for our own sanity and the safety of others.

rogeeeferrari
1 year ago
For those of you who are laughing and joking about this, Brad Pitt’s dog and so on, enough already. Obviously you are just young people, I was a teenage kid living in SoCal in 69 and I can tell you I will never joke about all those people who were slaughtered by the Manson maniacs. To Joe, thanks for the video…

Justinlorimerdotcom
5 months ago
I have a question for anyone who can answer. I recognize that Once Upon a Time… is fiction, but when the assailants are in the car at the end of the street and the girl in the backseat gives a monologue about murdering the people in Hollywood who taught us to murder. She’s obviously referring to Hollywood elite, who was/is Jewish. Polanski is Jewish, and made _Rosemary’s Baby_, a film that reframed the happiness of childbirth into satanism. Then they went and killed Polanski’s pregnant wife? Seems more than a coincidence to me.

Is there any evidence that the girl said this, or anything like it?

Why would Tarantino include this monologue in the movie?

When race war is mentioned most folks think of black versus white but doesn’t it also imply Jews versus Gentiles?

Again, I have very little knowledge of this case. I wasn’t alive then, never looked into it. Just curious. Thanks!

Sound Rise
1 year ago
After watching different interviews and bits from Sharon Tates life and everything surrounding her death I am starting to understand the actual meaning behind the ending of Once Upon A Time In America, and especially WHY it was so raw and how important it is that it is as disgustingly raw and brutal as any scene can be.

Your Mother Called, She Said:
1 year ago
I remember reading a very gritty book entitled Sick City, where the MacGuffin of the story was an old 8mm reel of orgies that took place in the Tate household. The cast of characters in this book really stood out as depraved addicts that had no real interest in the film’s contents, but only the opportunities it would afford on the black market.

Good read, kind of like a grimy L.A. version of Guy Ritchie’s Snatch, but the diamond was instead a snuff film involving Sharon Tate and instead of wisecracking British tough guys, it was instead a cast of colorful addicts from skid row.

I want to give credit to my late brother for having the best taste in literature, culture, and history and leaving his niche library to me. Tony O’Neil would be just a name if it wasn’t for my weirdo little brother.

I miss you every day and can’t wait to see you again.

Bootywolfe
1 year ago
1969: “LOL COMING RACE WAR?? How stupid…”

2020:

Tupac Shakur
6 months ago
Sharon Tate deserved so much better and deserved to live out her life and start her family, one of the most horrific stuff I’ve seen in my life. What a beautiful young girl Smh

Jesuree Marino
3 months ago (edited)
My brother was at a party and Manson was there. My brother said Manson had a charisma about him as well as a side that my brother said was pure evil . My brother left the party as soon as possible because he said he didn’t like the vibes.
I’m greatful my brother was smart enough to leave…he went on to put Woodstock together for his bands. Jefferson airplane, Blood sweat and tears and many more.

Masseur. Davis
1 year ago
I wish the ending to Once Upon A Time in Hollywood was true. Takes a sick, evil demonic soul to kill a pregnant woman.

UTB LLC
2 years ago
Manson knew that Terry Melcher no longer lived at that house. Several months prior to the murders Manson visited that house thinking Terry Melcher still lived there and Sharon Tate was there. That is a common misconception that Manson didn’t know who lived at that house

MisterDaniel O
11 months ago
This was one of the most interesting interviews. This guest REALLY knew this topic like the back of his hand.

Dan and Lilly
2 years ago
Since when has any official narrative ever been believable

Stephen Nee
10 months ago
He described a 21 century corporate executive. Fierce bullying followed by pathetic begging, then fiercely threatening then grotesque pleading. On and on.
No shame and no honour.

yyz
2 years ago
I heard an interview with Bugliosi back in the 2000’s regarding the Kennedy assassination. I found him to be transparently full of shit. He just expected the audience to except the official narrative because he’s Vincent Bugliosi and he prosecuted Charles Manson so just take his word for it. Really disappointing because I read his book growing up and was expecting a really compelling interview by a famous rock star prosecutor and what I got was a lot of really vacant gas lighting by an extreme narcissist with mental issues.

Mac Spicer
1 month ago
I never hear people talking about how suspicious it is Polanski left town when the murders took place. I feel like he was connected to the occult family. Possibly the same people responsible for the startup of Son of Sam killers. Thanks to Truthiracy, and guys like Maury Terry you can put the pieces together that these events have occult hand writing all over them. Polanski tells us symbolically in his movies he’s heavily tied in

Monty Daniels
1 year ago
I read a series of documents pertaining to the Tate murders. certainly looked like there had been outside help with what happened. Scary to know that this kind of stuff was going on back then… First the Kennedy’s, King then the Tate thing. All within 7 years….

Matthew O’Malley
6 months ago (edited)
I read the book. I am 9 minutes through the video. I always let Roman Polanski slide for his crime because he committed it right after the murders — or like within the next year or two. I remember thinking the theory of ‘Helter Skelter’ was absurd but believing that they did do it because they were lost, abused kids who fell into a bad crowd. I don’t know what to think. I am going to read this book.

Gmacc187
2 years ago
“I’m guilty of thinking I had rights in a courtroom” – Manson

Richard Larson
2 months ago
I’m halfway through his book right now. Really interesting stuff, and it’s very obvious there was more to the Manson story than we were originally shown.

scottiebones
1 year ago (edited)
Dave McGowan did his own research and made a book on the Laurel canyon musicians from that era and its bizarre links to military intelligence, also linked Manson to all this… Really interesting stuff a good read.

Rage Against My Hairline
2 years ago
Like Michael Cain says in ‘The Dark Knight’, “some men just want to watch the world burn”. Some men want to see how much they can make someone do. Manson was not insane, just deeply narcissistic, cruel, and curious. A bad combination.

Wesley James T.
1 year ago
The motive of the Tate/Labianca murders was to try and get Bobby B out of jail by doing killings that were similar to the Hinman murder by stabbing and writing messages in blood on the walls and stuff but it obviously didn’t work because Bobby was caught pretty much red handed driving Hinman’s car and had the murder weapon still with him.

cyninbend
1 year ago
I could never make sense of the theory of the case (which happened when I was a junior in high school, and I was born and grew up in the SFV not far from where it happened) until Bugliosi spoke in my law school in 1976 (I think it was). He laid out the whole silly Helter Skelter theory and it really made sense, but just from the perspective of this insane narcissistic racist cult leader–it was not supposed to make sense to us. Manson had a nightmare childhood–you could not imagine anything worse happening to f up; a kid’s mind mentally, emotionally. (Bugliosi understood him a bit too well?)

But if this was all an attempt to make hippie culture or whatever look terrible, they sure failed. No one saw Manson as leftist–the idiots carved swastikas on their faces! Nothing about Manson was hippyish. We dismissed him as insane immediately. Both Manson and the girls were as ignorant as people could possibly be–no education among any of them–the media had to use their early high school grades to paint them as good, smart girls (to shock readers) because they had nothing else. Ignorance is the number one qualification to be an attractive convert to crazy cultish conspiracy theories–no critical thinking, no experience with any contrary thought or behavior…anything sounds reasonable to those who have nothing else to compare it to.

Btw, Mark Lindsay of Paul Revere and the Raiders had lived there on Cielo Drive with Terry Melcher and was much more famous at the time. We’d been teeny boppers and into American Bandstand and Where The Action Is (Dick Clark’s weekday afternoon version) in junior high school and found the house from a photo in a magazine (all their homes were photographed, so we found them all)–made us even more frightened, esp when babysitting late up in the hills alone…

Grave Talks with Shannon Scott
2 years ago
Brilliant and refreshing! Thank you Joe for having this guest!

Geoffrey Crayon
11 months ago
The case against Manson was really shaky. Who could possibly trust bloody clothing, recovered murder weapons, footprints, fingerprints, and eyewitness testimony?

K M
2 years ago
RIP Sharon Tate, her baby and other victims.

Andrea Spinxo
1 year ago
I watched ‘The Haunting Of Sharon Tate’ it’s about the interview Sharon gave..
It involves Jay Sebring And the house in Benedict Canyon. No, not the house where she and Jay were killed. That was on Cielo, just off Benedict. But the houses can’t be much more than a mile apart. Anyways, Sharon used to date Jay. This was before she met Roman Polanski, the man she married. She and Jay went together for a long time. Jay had just bought the house in Benedict Canyon. It had once been owned by Paul Bern. It was into that house that Bern had brought his bride, Jean Harlow. And it was in that house that Bern had committed suicide.

An eery interview with Tate has revealed that in 1967 she had a violent dream so disturbing it haunted her a year later. According to an interview with Dick Kleiner in Fate magazine, Tate thought it was a premonition of some sort and didn’t know how to make of it.

August 1, 1968, – almost a year to the day before she was slain in her home – Kleiner asked whether she had any psychic experiences.

“Yes, I have had a psychic experience – at least I guess that’s what it was – and it was a terribly frightening and disturbing thing for me. It happened a year or so ago. Maybe you can explain it,” she replied.

Tate wasn’t sure why but she told Kleiner she couldn’t sleep one night: “I had a funny feeling,” she said. Isomewhere between being awake and asleep, she had a vision.

“I saw this creepy little man,” she told Kleiner. “He looked like all the descriptions I had ever read of Paul Bern.” According to Tate, the figure entered the bedroom and ‘dashed around the room’ frightening her so much that she jumped up and ran towards the stairs in her bathrobe.

But once she reached the staircase the “dream” only got worse.

“I saw something or someone tied to the staircase,” she said. “Whoever it was – and I couldn’t tell if it was a man or a woman but knew somehow that it was either Jay Sebring or me – he or she was cut open at the throat.”

She needed a drink, for nerve-steadying purposes. She didn’t know where the bar was. Something told her to open a bookcase. Inside, there was a hidden bar. She poured a shot.
There was some wallpaper below the hidden bar. For some reason, she picked at it, tore it away. It covered a lovely copper base to the bar. She wondered why it had been papered over.
Strange, how the mind works. Worrying about things like that when ghosts are wandering around upstairs and mutilated bodies are tied to the staircase downstairs. She thought it must have been a dream. She decided to find out and went back upstairs…and fell to sleep.

When Jay came back, the next morning, he woke her. She remembered the events of the night before. It must have been a dream — but…
“Hey,” he called, “who tore the wallpaper off by the bar down here?”

…..

Was the ghost of Paul bern trying to show Sharon something that night? Whatever it was its EERIE af.

The movie wasn’t the best but it gives a great insight to her dream
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Lance Lawhorn
Lance Lawhorn
4 months ago
What an incredible crazyass era that was! I was born in ‘70 and grew up just miles away from Brushy Mnt. prison(E. Tn) & remember so vividly the crazy stories about Satan (CM) being housed so close to my home. It was a time of such hatred coupled with the debacle that was Vietnam and the “War on drugs!” This entire podcast is phenomenal especially with JRs ability to push for the answers that I sometimes forget I want answered because of the insane truths that keep coming out! Just incredible…👍
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floxy20
floxy20
10 months ago
I’m always amused when experts search for the “motives” of lunatics who commit multiple mass murders, and think uncovering this “motivation” is key to a prosecution case. So they come up with reasons which also apply to thousands of people – people who don’t commit crimes, by the way. Hint: they do it for kicks.
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James Ordway
James Ordway
1 year ago
Great, just when I thought I was gonna learn something to add to a story I knew little about….now I know something that goes against what everyone I know thinks they know about the story. Now I’ll spend the rest of my life trying to convince them of the real story of the Manson Family. Thanks Joe.

Bella Donna Chronicles
1 year ago
There is a book by Pathfinder Press titled Cointelpro: the FBI’s Secret War on Political Freedom. I would recommend this. A lot of political groups were paid off by the government to keep quiet & not sue. The SWP was the only political party & activist group to sue the FBI & government & won. It took around 15 years, yet it happened. Goes way back to the beginning of Hoover’s career. Cointelpro was about busting unions & working people organizing. I must say,this is a great book as well.

Darin Pearson
2 years ago
There is a fair bit of discussion in this interview about motives. It is important to remember that motive is not an essential part if the Corpus Delecti. In order to secure a conviction, the prosecution must only prove, to the exclusion of reasonable doubt, that the accused commited the crime(s). It is not necessary to prove why. Consequently, all this theorizing as to “why” is interesting but irrelevant as to the convictions. Casting aspersions on the motivations is irrelevant. The Manson Family did the crimes. Proven, admitted, convicted, done.

MrBeans
5 months ago
This guy has an amazing way of explaining history,and makes it so interesting!

Brian Borell
2 years ago
The “Official Narrative” is a work of fiction. Every time, Every case.

Insane One
11 months ago
One theory concerning the murder of Stephen Parent is that when he was walking through the property he witnessed the victims being chased down and slaughtered that’s when Tex went after him with a pistol. I always wondered why that house in particular and the story around town was that it was a big time party house.

ReverendXero
1 year ago (edited)
My mothers very first fist fight was with Sadie May (Susan Atkins). My mom beat her ass into the dirt. Then later on (when I was about 4) we lived in a town called Brookdale, CA. We lived in a small cabin, one of about 6 that were satellites to a “main house”. The main house is right across the street from the famous Brookdale Lodge. The people that lived in the main house were also Manson affiliates; Frank and Kay (Kitty). I met my best friend of 39 years (RIP Aaron) at that time. For the next few years we had some crazy experiences that kids that young never should. To make this story stranger, less than 50 yards from that main house, was a small candy shop. It was owned and run daily, by Shirley Black, a.k.a. Shirley Temple.

Jeremy Parr
2 months ago
Sharon Tate had been my grandmothers best friend from grade school until she was murdered. My grandmother was prom queen in Vicenza, Italy and Tate was one of the runner-ups.
I’ve seen pictures of Tate when they were kids. Their parents were military.

Matt Kustom Kostumes
1 year ago
I always thought the motive was squirrelly. But I still believe most of the correct people were sent to prison.

Yoseman1
11 months ago
Would it really shock anyone if we found out either Roman had this done, and the LAPD pinned it on an easy target, OR, that Tex confessed to many more murders that the LAPD had already made arrests and convictions with.

Dee Dee Moore & Co.
2 years ago (edited)
Anyone who lived there and was familiar with the people involved knew Polanski was complicit, if not guilty. It was never a question of who and why, it was how. Polanski hated that Sharon got pregnant, he did not want to be a father, he was convinced that it wasn’t his “kid” but to announce that would expose him as the sexual deviant he is and how he drugged and pimped out his wife. How did Polanski pull it off, Tom? Stop adding all the drama when it’s simple what really happened. Everybody wanted a piece of the sensationalism pie and push their radical political agendas.

trehugr4life
3 months ago
My intuition has always told me that Polanski did this because Sharon was pregnant. I’ve seen docs about heater skelter and thought it made logical sense (the way they portrayed the story), but my guts always said it was Roman.

Anthony Lilly
1 month ago
I interviewed Charles Manson for 6 months he used to call me at my house and we chatted mostly about artwork but there was a time when he mentioned to me that Tex Watson had fronted a lot of speed to those actors and those actors were never going to pay him back. Were you gonna let them get away with that? That’s what he said to me and I have some conversations recorded on tape by the way.

Robert Perry
4 months ago
The CIA MK Ultra program was designed to create mind-controlled subjects who would act upon instructions (assets) to commit acts that the CIA wanted to occur but could deny any culpability (plausible deniability). Such assets were hypnotized and instructed to commit murder.
The murder of Sharon Tate was not an act of random violence; she was the intended victim.
The others present in the house when Sharon Tate was killed were killed only because they were witnesses to the murder. All the other murders were committed for the purpose of making it appear that the murder of Sharon Tate was a random act of violence.
Neither Charles Manson nor his ‘followers’ had a motive for the murder of Sharon Tate.
However, Roman Polanski did have a motive if Sharon Tate was going to divorce him and if she threatened to testify about how Polanski sexually abused her; especially if she knew about his pedophilia. A wife cannot be compelled to testify against her husband, but if she was planning to divorce Roman, then she could testify against him for child sexual abuse.

Music Laboratory
1 year ago
The fact that a person can stand in defense of that psychopath is the full explanation of why we are all of us doomed .

T
2 months ago
I just watched a documentary on Manson and the story of how this murder happened at his former house.
Its about Brian Wilson from The Beach Boys, Manson actually wrote a song that was recorded by Wilson and Manson was pissed
he didn’t get even writers credits for the song. it said Brian had given Manson 100000.00 to get him off his back and out of his house,] Manson had moved in to Wilson mansion with all his “family”. gosh I wish I could Remember what it was called,. I either saw on Apple TV or another premium
channel. It made the whole story make so much sense,.

flerkinmax
2 years ago
O’Neill did some great research and presented some necessary revisions of the long accepted official story of the Tate/LaBianca murders. But he seems confused on certain points that should have been more obvious to him. If you want to get an even more complete picture of what actually happened I recommend reading Nikolas Schreck’s book The Manson File. Schreck knew and interviewed people in both the Manson family and the Polanski/Tate circle of friends and come up with what I think is the most accurate view of what motivated the murders. The people at the Tate house and Tex Watson were not complete strangers to each other, but travelled in the same Hollywood drug dealing circles. There was a drug burn revenge aspect to the original killings that O’Neill misses. Watson knew Melcher too. Manson didn’t order the Tate murders but when informed of them ny Watson he exasperatedly went back to the house with them to demonstrate how to leave false clues to throw the police off the trail. The Helter Skelter thing was being used as a ruse to in their minds help their imprisoned buddy Bobby Beausoleil by making it look like the Hinman murder was part of a Black Panther spree. O’Neill did dig up one very interesting and curious CIA connection but I don’t think Manson was carrying out some MKUltra program. In fact I don’t think Manson was quite the mind control hippie guru he’s always made out to be.

Pacem Parabellum
1 year ago
Given the choice of which group I’d rather be chosen by to be an innocent victim in a plot to create a hostile atmosphere and pit various segments of society against each other in furtherance of a diabolical plot and the choices are the CIA or
the Manson Family I’m going with Charlie’s Misfits every time

Deidre L
11 months ago
To be honest, l have no idea what these two are trying to say. At the end of it all, all l know is that Sharon Tate deserved a hell of a lot better, both in her marriage and in every other aspect of her short life. Her murder is an absolute tragedy. R.I.P. Sharon, and your baby, and the other victims.

Jessica Jujubean
2 months ago
From what I gathered Manson had them killed because of his dreams of stardom going bust. He probably just used his philosophies to justify it to his followers. Given his history and whatnot you can bet the murder was committed for personal and not ideological reasons

Full Disclosure
2 years ago
I had Tom O’Neill on my podcast, The Working Experience, a few months ago. The book is awesome and he is a great guy to talk to. He told me a lot about his writing/research/interview process and the story behind his journey writing the book. Fascinating stuff.

Phyllis Denise
2 months ago
I was 9 years old when this happen. My family lived in a huge craftsman 4 bedroom house, and I never saw a house key in our front door. After this event here in LA, I saw a key being used to lock and unlock, this massive magohany door. This changed EVERYTHING.

Homo Sapienz
1 year ago
When have the media, government or anyone ever told a straight story, got things right or even accurately relayed what happened in front of their eyes, 5 mins ago 😂

Roy Merritt
2 years ago (edited)
He didn’t mention the fact that there was an incident that alleges Manson upon some time went to the house looking for Melcher angered as it were that Melcher had not produced the recording which Manson assumed Melcher had promised to do having complimented him on his skill as a lyricist. But of course if anything Melcher was likely humoring a character he readily could see was a problematic individual. Few took Manson’s prophetic statements about a “race war” seriously, not even Tex Watson who only joined up with Mason because of the readily availability of women and drugs he could consume something that was never possible back in his native Texas. I seriously doubt this was a COINTEL PRO operation because it was such a chaotic operation and the fact no one expected that Steven Parent who had traveled there to try and sell a radio to the grounds keeper who lived in a facility to the rear of the home and had slept listened to music and eventually went to sleep and slept through the entire scenario after Parent had left his residence with the lights not on or so low it wasn’t possible to even know he was there. Of course Parent was stopped just before exiting the property and murdered by Watson with the gun in his possession. I read Bugliosi’s book “Helter Skelter” and never thought the ludicrous motive that he presented was in anyway a serious reason for committing such carnage, but believable in the sense that many of these people were by that time off their rocker and Mason being the boastful fraud he always was knew they were easily manipulated. So it was believable he could make them embrace such nonsense. If what I gathered is credible Manson had gone there one day to speak to Melcher who had moved out of the rental by then and was summarily dismissed by the Polish boyfriend of Abigal Folger the coffee heiress both of whom were victims the night they were murdered and was house sitting the place when the incident took place. Manson was outraged by the incident and having some foreigner with poor English sending him away like so much riff raff and the fact Manson who despite being an ex-con was still a little guy and thus physically intimidated by this man. That I assume was the motive for the murder for Manson and all the rest simply peripheral information.

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Chad Johns
8 months ago
I read the book earlier this year, I would highly recommend it to anyone, it’s very well written and fascinating. Really great stuff

Paul Adams
9 months ago
Can’t wait to hear from the Truth & Reconciliation committee.. and I hope they are taking measures to ensure their safety and to preserve the evidence they’ve uncovered. This shit has gone to a whole new level since the 60’s and it would be naive to think these institutions have suddenly become ethical or that they even care about damage they’ve done and continue to do.

David HAILSTONE
5 months ago (edited)
A subject close to my heart. I’ve read Tom’s book a couple of times, and watched every interview. Rogan interview was a turning point, no doubt. A lot can be said, but to me the ultimate truth for history can only come from the full release of all agency and similar files to the judgement of history. Certainly Tom has done his best to get them, but blocks and refusals by these agencies make this seemingly impossible. We have every reason to question why and have the greatest suspicions. I wish I could feel optimistic about full release of files and the full judgement of history, but I can’t. I’m sorry, America is too corrupt, and its agencies too little scrutinised. Unless some whistle-blowers do the right thing, I fear the truth will remain elusive. Truthfully, it makes me angry.

Also, with respect to Tom, he keeps saying he doesn’t like to draw conclusions or to speculate the whole story, and we should draw our own conclusions, but then he repeatedly says he hasn’t included all he knows in the book. Those two things are incompatible. He was so scared of being called a ‘conspiracy theorist’ he muted the end of the book.

I also agree with you on an American truth and reconciliation type process. America has its Dorian Gray painting in the attic, rancid and toxic, reflecting its sins and criminality, and it needs to see the light of day.

Robb Powell
9 months ago
This adds to the facts I have to take into account as I try to make sense out of our history. I had bought into the Manson narrative because of the book of the prosecutor back in the day. It never occurred to me that there would be more dots to connect. I agree with Tom that the Warren Commission was the end of innocence…..

don key shot
9 months ago
tom o`neill is the real deal. an amazing tale of discovery for those interested in the secret history of the 60s – and what has followed on from there. o`neill`s modesty stands in direct contrast to the insights he has to offer: a gripping read, highly recommended.

Cognitive Dissident
9 months ago
I read O’Neil’s book and it prompted me to study some footage from the trial which I had only seen glimpses of prior to reading the book. And what jumped out at me more than anything else was the “spectacle” of it. So much of the Manson group’s antics seemed loosely scripted, coordinated, and intentionally provocative. Of course for it to truly function as spectacle there would have to be a level of coordination with the media and then framed by them for a more or less generalized target audience. Now unlike O’Neil, I come at this stuff from the angle that intelligence agencies are behind everything, or at least anything that is morally objectionable, harmful, subversive, etc. (Yes I’m a conspiracy theorist which I’m not boastful nor shameful about) So it wasn’t difficult for me to see how the CIA could have concocted and facilitated this operation of using two of it’s favorite compromised assets ie the media, and crazy sex cults, in order to create this presentation of spectacle for the television viewing 1960s American Public. So that got me thinking about motive. Why hijack the court proceeding like this? Which got me thinking about the nature of spectacle and how it acts as a form of propaganda, grabbing the audience’s full attention, mobilizing their emotional reactions, and in the process, dissolving any potential critical/rational thinking about the situation in question and of course their role in it and other peripheral operations. In other words it serves as a nifty psychological trick to obscure their on-going, behind-the-scenes, unconstitutional skull duggery of the American People. Not to mention scare the f*ck out of them. It’s just crazy.

w l
9 months ago
Awesome. Been wanting to hear more from Tom O’Neil ever since that amazing Rogan podcast.

YouthInEyesAsian
9 months ago
Great book. Tom is planning a second book that answers some of the questions posed in the first.

Needless to say the popularity of the book has allowed him to uncover much more.

lorelei smith
2 months ago
The conciliation patterns makes perfect sense because that cause and effect reaction pattern is already in place. Applying it here, fits too. It’s an amazing era. My teenage years were the 60s and I was a “flower child”. This history changes the narrative.

mordekye
9 months ago (edited)
great to see tom o’neill on the show! chaos is one of the best books i’ve read in a long time.

Richard Lamb
9 months ago
Thanks David, what an eye opener! I purchased Tom’s book on audible, looking forward to the listen. These revelations, though not 100% provable by the sounds of it, raise further questions on sense making for me. I’m generally a cynical soul, in that established power has, can and will abuse its position. I wonder what else will bubble up from the depths?!

Paulie S
9 months ago
Never read a book that was so informative yet so factually ambivalent in my life. Good read, still no real conclusive answers if you think you’re gonna get that. Gotta admire the man’s resolve however.

Ron Pereira
2 weeks ago
Amazing journalism, inspirational. The difficult part comes in when our idols, the musicians of that time start to be linked to the agencies operations. Laurel canyon artists like the Doors (Admiral George Stephen Morrison, Jim’s dad literally started the vietnam war in 1964 with the gulf of tonkin incident), frank Zappa (dad was a chemical engineer working on the chemicals for the war), Byrds, Beach boys, etc etc etc were all military brats, controlled opposition to the anti war movement. Heartbreaking stuff.

Nigel Pickering
9 months ago
I really enjoyed this. A breath of fresh air for RW. Much more interesting direction of inquiry than endless sense-making talks. Uncovering quality investigative material with a ‘good faith’ investigator is so valuable. Just be cautious of ‘bad faith’ conspiracy writers who are fabricating nonsense for a quick buck.

Barry Cohen
9 months ago
I had a wicked cool High School teacher. This was around 1979. He once told the class The Beatles and some of the Hippie movement were under CIA/ Government control. Weird stuff. Not sure if he was a conspiracy nut or what, but a great teacher nonetheless.

Tony Baker
9 months ago
David, I don’t come around as much as I should, but you always do such good work. Thank you

Evergreen Meditations
8 months ago (edited)
This reminds very much of what Hunter S Thompson was talking about all the years that he was writing his Gonzo Journalism. Strange how Hunter started getting very active again later on in his life around 2004-2005 with his last two books Kingdom of Fear and Hey Rube in uncovering this similar murky side of the American secret history pertaining to 9/11, etc… Also bizarre that he died in peculiar circumstances in 2005 and his last book, which included all his letters from 1977 until his death, called The Mutineer: Rants and Ravings from the mountaintop was never really released to the general public even though it has been registered at the library of Congress. When you read his other letters like in Fear and Loathing in America, which was released and is generally available, it somehow indicated that there was more to the letters then just the one dimensional character that most people portrayed Hunter as. I have the impression that Hunter was one of the last loose ends of the 60’s counterculture that was removed from our collective memory. How his last book was never really released and has been buried is bizarre and baffling certainly knowing how popular Hunter was up until his death. Now no one really talks about him anymore…

The Renaissance Yorkshireman Podcast
7 months ago
Sidney Gotlieb also plays a key role in the excellent Netflix docudrama miniseries ‘Wormwood’. Well worth a watch.

76blackwidow
7 months ago
This was great, thank you! Please have him on again! ❤

GrainOfSand
9 months ago (edited)
Wow. I have serious concerns that the release in October will only feed the current climate .. There are a whole lot of hateful angry people who publicly wish death on those who do not fit their belief system. That said. I hope it is healing. Thank you for this wonderful interview. I’m off to give JR a listen. I am grateful for the integrity and bravery of Mr. Tom O’Neill as well as his gestures of true humility. Thank you

Lily Go Lightly
9 months ago
Really enjoyed that…grateful thanks to you both!

Here’s Some Stuff I Found
9 months ago
Best long form journalism book I’ve read since Hunter S. Thompson’s ‘Hells Angels’.

Gordon Hastie
8 months ago
I’m reading it and it’s a great read as well as illuminating. Great interview!

West Black
9 months ago (edited)
I am surprised and intrigued that Rebel Wisdom is dipping its toe into this pool.

I know RB’s main thread is sensemaking, i.e. making sense of things. I applaud David for being a truth seeker. My question to him, as a journalist:
Why this interview/information, and why NOW? (Is C-19 not relevant anymore?).

Another question to Dacid/Rebel Wisdom: How do you find the balance in trying to stay as objective as possible? If I watch VICE documentaries I cannot help but wonder if there are subjective/ hidden agendas behind the reporting.

I think we need more wisdom and less knowledge.

We are all trying to find out what is really going on, in our governments, in the world, what is true and what is real in our own lives.

fischX
9 months ago
I would say it’s the opposite – there was no proof for his involvement in the murder plot at all. The trial was sub standard to say the least.

Rose of Zion Wisdom
8 months ago
So, the fact that COINTELPRO and CHAOS (started in 1967) are nearly synonymous with CONTROL and KAOS in the hit TV series Get Smart (first produced in 1965) is just supposed to be a coincidence? Or was this a big joke that these agencies were having on the American public?

GMW
9 months ago (edited)
Tom says Manson was a gift to the establishment and that Helter skelter destroyed the hippie counter culture.
Manson wasn’t a gift. He was an actor playing a role in the LARP psyop that went a long ways to ending the bohemian rhapsody.
Tom ties it all in, through Jack Ruby to one of the greatest psyops ever. The JFK pantomime sacrifice ritual held on the sacred freemasonic ground of Dealey plaza.
The CIA are experts at running these psyops and no doubt have a big role in the one that’s playing out whirled wide right now.

psmitty6790
9 months ago
Amazing book. I had goosebumps the first night I listened to the Rogan podcast

atendriya dasa
6 months ago
Rebel Wisdom (while not ‘asleep-at-the-wheel’, as we say, but apparently himself distracted) should’ve said “Ruby” to correct Tom who, at 27:20, said “several psychiatrists who examined West”. Tom meant to say “several psychiatrists who examined RUBY.”
Hup! Can I get a little help frOM my friends?!

Peerless Loser
8 months ago
Startlingly similar overlaps in the sons of sam doc that recently went up on netflix- if u havent watched it is concerning

Andy Figueroa
9 months ago
Please update and maintain podcast channels. Thank you — a fan!

Jason Ward
4 months ago
Why would Jack Ruby kill Oswald right in front of everyone with no escape plan, it wasn’t a crime of passion, Ruby didn’t know Kennedy or Oswald personally

sheLovesG
9 months ago
The main objective was to discredit the anti war movement

justin laporte
9 months ago
Wow interesting watch, MkUltra….so creepy, as if the medias claws were not enough deep within human psychology

Ben Cribbin
9 months ago
I haven’t approved of Rogan’s recent Vax content, but the Tom O’Neil interview demonstrated how much the Rogan show can contribute. The long format, Joe’s fascination with the subject, plus a careful and rigorous guest really brought the content to life for me.

John Hallam
2 months ago
Just wondering, if all this is true, why is Tom still around? Don’t attack me on this. I believe what he says and I definitely don’t want anything happening, but man. It’s a lot of deep stuff

Persona Non Grata
8 months ago
Maybe he’s a professional procrastinator. 20 years of advances on his book, “I’ll have the manuscript next mont! Swear!”

Tim Sweeney
9 months ago (edited)
I’m not gonna take credit for this film, but I did rave about O’Neill’s JREon a Rebel Wisdom vid and I now remember David asking me about the JRE episode in the comments. So I get an assist at least.

Ozren Škondrić
9 months ago
I sleep peacefully knowing that these kind of things are not happening anymore.

qwertroy66
9 months ago
A GREAT interview,
Wonder Why So few comments compared to views…

Kathy Mayes
8 months ago
I listened to this while half asleep, but I thought the author “beat around the bush” a lot!

My Alchemical Romance
2 weeks ago
Love from the United States!

Love some tom O’Neil!

crystalawen
2 weeks ago
Good interview; very interesting. Thankyou. At least you listened, & didn’t keep butting in with your own boring monologue like rogan did.

William Whitten
1 month ago
Applying Federal Rule 406; Routine Practices and habit, is a good legal tool to use in such arguments. This rule essentially codifies and strengthens Modus operandi as legal doctrine.

Spiral Stairs
3 weeks ago
Great book, incredibly interesting…but I dont believe any of it.

andrewmarkmusic
9 months ago
Miles Mathis’ paper is seminal on Manson and is well worth studying.

cavscout62
1 month ago
CIA has Always operated domestically and it’s 100% Legal as long as FBI is involved. So find a sympathetic FBI mid level manager and assign an agent. Bingo!

Paul Nam
9 months ago
Add Jimmy Hendrix to the list of hits.

Amanda Elise
9 months ago
Chaos was great I really enjoyed it

David Coomber
9 months ago (edited)
When someone is selling a book you know someone is selling you a book

RB Glennie
8 months ago (edited)
Very disappointing I must say – on the part of the host. This author is making some very extraordinary allegations and yet I must say David Fuller reacted as though it is some obvious, unassailable truth that is being uttered here that somehow `Conterintel Pro’ was responsible for the murders of Sharon Tate and the others … but it is clear that the author is engaged in motivated reasoning – that is trying to find evidence to find a conclusion he’s already come to… `I tried to find link between Jack Ruby and [psychiatrist]’… `I tried to find the link between so and so and so and so…’ Yet not even a challenge from Fuller, who then concludes his fanboy interview by calling for a `truth and reconciliation commission’ again as though what the author is saying is some obvious truth. In just one instance of dubious assertions, the author describes how `for months the police were describing the Tate murders as a drug deal gone wrong… then all of a sudden (“all of a sudden”!) they were claiming in Dec 1969 that Manson ordered his followers to killed Tate etc., because of the Helter-Skelter race war…’ Yes ‘all of a sudden’ the police were pursuing this line of inquiry because Susan Atkins confessed to two fellow inmates at the prison where she was being held that she and the others killed Tate, Jay Sebring etc and the Labiancas. They had a very mistaken impression as to what had occurred on Aug 8 and 9 1969 in LA which got them precisely nowhere until Sadie / Susan Atkins started blabbing off. For someone who is always talking about having `difficult conversations’, not to mention the value of `sense-making’ I really expected more of David Fuller.

Star Observers
9 months ago
Charlie just keeps looking younger

grigrob9
9 months ago
That was in the past. I am sure these three letter agencies stopped all illegal/immoral/wrong/stupid activities now. /s

Ed O’Brien
9 months ago
Oliver Stone needs to buy the film rights to Chaos ASAP

Scott
9 months ago
It’s all rotten at the core

David Baker
9 months ago
When are they going to let David out of the dungeon under Century House?

J Mallett
2 months ago
I have researched the topic, viewed Manson interviews, looked into Polanski, and what Sharon Tate was into, and the insiders that discussed the case. Now I am looking at this situation from a new perspective. Was Charles Manson a man lost within the system? Or did he have more things about him that he won’t tell us, yet the insiders know, they aren’t discussing this with me.. Tom O’Neill really worked hard on this, and showed me how far down the rabbit hole this really goes, and when you think you understand it, I know I didn’t understand anything. Manson mentions the people in government are not good people, our leaders are not working for the people, he knew what happened, and played along with it. Did Manson mind control the people around him? The evidence would seem to say, yes. Now Manson is dead, and the people he brainwashed and killed for him without remorse are going to waste their lives and die in the prison system, all be design, yet we didn’t see it.

Alejandro Ungaro
7 months ago
Nothing that Maury Terry wasn’t discovered before in his book «The Ultimate Evil».

shooshoojoon4
8 months ago
As Volcanoes, floods, fires, pandemic, and mass confusion in belief system are dizzying humanity, we might just realise there’s nothing outside our inward movement which is dependant on the outer. That we might just be awakened!

David Baker
9 months ago
Can’t believe you don’t have more subs yet?

The Shitty Activist
8 months ago
If this podcast had 1/10 of the reach that irresponsible Rogan has, I’d start to believe in justice again.

Brendan Wynter
9 months ago
The thing is, stopping the hippies was a righteous project.

Kevin Fox
9 months ago
Have a look at the documentary Rob Zombie made . Charles Manson . The final word .
New Normal
New Normal
6 months ago (edited)
❎. JFK The main actors
have passed, or soon will be.
Thier children are also passing.
I doubt that this
will soon be opened.
Maybe 25+ yrs.
To many “national secrets”.
How things work,
who’s connected to whom.
100 yrs for some of Lincoln’s papers
Prince Philips will, 75yrs, why?
🤺💐

Jason Ward
4 months ago
No Altamont officially ended the hippie movement December of 1969

Soul Alchemy
2 months ago
Watching from the United States!

mimor juevez
9 months ago
Aloha! subtitles in spanish please!! 🤞❤️🙏

mm111303
8 months ago
Its gonna take someone like Tom to bring me back from you doin Bret so dirty.

Bianca von Mühlendorf
9 months ago
Jay Deyer got that all

c helps
9 months ago
aah so big groups/organisations can organise `conspiracies`…

Moses Pittounikos
8 months ago (edited)
Boring nostalgia wisdom. He’s repeating what was on the Rogan podcast! Rebel Wisdom, do an insider scoop about the big (censored here) thing happening now?

David McGuire
8 months ago
Can you imagine researching for 20 yrs and then coming to poor conclusions? Damn.

Brad Forward
5 months ago
Meet the new Manson Family. The Republicans.

Je
9 months ago
This is uncanny. I’m just in the middle of listening to O’Neil’s Joe Rogan episode then I see this upload.

Mary Campbell
8 months ago
Add Elvis to the list

Michael Christopher
5 months ago
I’ll guess Oliver Stone

TinFoilFrog
1 day ago
The finders?

James Hadaway
8 months ago (edited)
funny he used to create scorpions and just behind religion is astrology, did he like so many have a grudge with the 3rd dimension? The world looks for a prisoner and a victim that’s where the real answers lie to as why many criminals turn into psychopaths, they don’t care for their crimes and don’t care about respect for others, because they feel they are being made a convenience.

-=SwitchbladeActionDance=-
9 months ago (edited)
did doze guys in dat hothouse, git some 60s poon?

Mike Hunt
8 months ago
Algorithm.

Peterhardacher
2 months ago
Manson was innocent

Jack Allen
9 months ago
Getting London Real vibes.

GonnaEndYa
8 months ago
Its istanbul not Constantinople

Mar Shiv
9 months ago
No new info. Kinda boring

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Isaac33Noles
11 months ago
Imagine all the crimes that would not have occurred if the CIA never existed?
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jaydenrock
11 months ago
Tom is literally the greatest guest of all time. I can’t get enough of his work. I hope Joe Rogan has him on again.
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Espen Baklid
11 months ago
Saw Tom O’Neill at Joe Rogan’s podcast, and ordered the book immediately. Was my read of the summer 2020 – highly recommended! And if you, like me, feel confused about the intense name dropping in the first 100 pages or so, take notes about names and relations to each other. Helped me a great deal to fully understand the big web of suspects and acquaintances that Tom O’Neill lay out. Incredible piece of journalism!
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Linda
Linda
10 months ago
I read this book a few months ago, I was really impressed how Tom O’Neill’s family truly supported him throughout his process, that says a lot about him and the great family he comes from
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Andżelek
Andżelek
1 month ago
I LOVE the endnotes! Actually thought it was typical “cheating” with adding blank resources, so I tended to check all those that caused my doubts. I guess it took mi some months to go thru book with reading additional resources but it actually made it much more “fun” and satisfying. Looking forward seeing more from Tom, I guess the next book also will be one of few I am actually not “borrowing” from libgen but buying in paper edition.

Also – he’s so good in being a guest! I didn’t expected so many backstage stories (that I actually never heard of before!).
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jmj
jmj
11 months ago
I have become a massive Tom fan. This interview is superb! The Marilyn Manson part was so great! I am also loving this podcast! I have listened to quite a few episodes and I am really impressed with the host. He does a fantastic job at conducting an interview. He is great at asking questions that clarify the information without crowding the guest. Good stuff! Also, super interesting guests! I’m into it 100% 💯👍✨
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Lord Osiron
Lord Osiron
2 months ago
I just bought this book last Monday, and I finished it this morning (Sunday). It’s a Must-Read book! Tom earned every penny he makes from this! His tenacity, strength, and courage amid the daunting and overwhelming obstacles are just legendary! He deserves to be famous for it and immortalized in history!
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Joe Max Fpv
Joe Max Fpv
11 months ago
Absolutely captivating. This man deserves a journalist achievement award.
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Paul Smith
Paul Smith
10 months ago
Tom O’Neill deserves a Pulitzer. I have read this book and recommended it to (and bought it for) students and am never tired of hearing O’Neill talk about his 20-year slog. And to hear him say that there is more and maybe a second book. So glad he teamed up with Dan Piepenbring and this story saw the light of day. The audiobook is a wonderful listen.
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Kevin Donovan
Kevin Donovan
9 months ago (edited)
I’ve read roughly 15 books on this subject before I read Tom’s book. I’ve never believed the Helter Skelter narrative. Tom certainly has paid a great price to find answers to questions that have been ignored. My hats off to him and a big Thank You for your dedication to truth, something hard to find in today’s world. I’m just beginning to read 5 to die by Jerry LeBlanc and Ivor Davis released in 1970 before “Bug’s” fairytale. This book, from what research I’ve done, was mostly compiled from interviews with Paul Watkins, Brooks Poston and Paul Crockett. With Crockette’s help Watkins and Poston were able to break free from Charlie’s mind games.
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conspiracytruthscouk
conspiracytruthscouk
5 months ago
Tom O’Neill’s ‘CHAOS’ is the most important book on Charles Manson ever written. Excellent journalism.
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Hounds of Liberation
Hounds of Liberation
1 month ago (edited)
This has made me think about Nick Brookfield’s doco with Aileen Warnous. She said two things that stuck out to me and even more so now I’ve begun reading Tom’s book…

1- She tells Nick to “wake up” because the police knew she was killing people but let her carry on.

2- She mentioned to Nick that the guards were wrecking her head by sending sound waves into her cell and turning the vibrations up and down over and over.

I don’t think she was lying about any of this.

Just a few things that are red flags to me.
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Luke B
Luke B
11 months ago
I just love that it took this sweet man 20+ years to finish this book. This book and subsequent publications have come to be a major definition of his life. Most human beings would kill for meaning like that. Big ups bruh!
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Well trained squaw
Well trained squaw
2 months ago
This was the best interview I’ve ever listened, Bravo.
Also, MR O’Neill.. I’ve nothing but respect & love for you, sir.
Blessings. Keep the sunny side-up
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THAIS B
THAIS B
11 months ago
I have never listened to an interview for over hour and wanted it to be longer!Tom describing writing the book is just as interesting as the actual book!Unbelievable dude
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Carni 48
Carni 48
11 months ago
This is part of what needs to be taught in school nowadays. How corrupt our government really is !!!
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Jebidiah Newkedkracker
Jebidiah Newkedkracker
11 months ago
Congratulations on such a work Mr. O’Neill–it has renewed my faith in journalists and the field of journalism, which ironically has lessened my faith in that much more of my fellow Americans.
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Monica Angelini
Monica Angelini
10 months ago
Buying the book. Great interview! Not only the subject but the amazing view of what investigative journalism is really about. Bravo Mr. O’Neil
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Jeremy Walter
Jeremy Walter
4 months ago
The drug that he said Terry Melcher was into is called “Dilaudid” aka Hydromorphone. It has a rush comparible to heroin, but is a pharmaceutical pill. For the discerning opiate addict. Thank you so much for a great podcast! I bought the audible version of Chaos and it was great. Now I’m going to have to buy the paperback to read the notes at the back! Thanks again! And I can’t believe Hamilton Morris’s dad is Errol Morris!?!?! No wonder Hamilton got famous so quick. Love both their work! Wormwood was great!
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Debbie Dickinson
Debbie Dickinson
10 months ago
Great Interview! I was 18 when these murders happened. I read the book, but I love listening to Tom O’Neil talk about it. Please talk him into doing his own podcast. He’s a great talker! Love you guys….Great podcast
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John Flano
John Flano
10 months ago
Definitely one of my all time favorite interviews. Regarding SirHan… RFK JR has been absolutely clear that SirHan failed at shooting RFK as ballistics showed his bullets where everywhere except in RFK and it was a cop who stuck his gun up into the right rear part of his head behind his ear that killed him. RFK Had muzzle residue from the cops gun that was at point blank range. SirHan just missed multiple times…. The cop was…. A back up?? But RFK jr has talked about this in interviews. It was a cop who pulled it off….. SirHan fucked up. Feel free to cross-reference this info as RFK JR said that so many people all just believe that it was SirHan…. The dude missed. It was a cop. Just behind RFK on his right side placed his pistol right at the back side of RFK s head and the bullet from his pistol went into the head behind his right ear. Sorry for the Ramble. I am just surprised that I remember this.. 😂.. Awesome interview 100% ⭐🙏
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Miss Tara
Miss Tara
2 months ago
Tom you are a true Super Hero! I love you! This was my favorite interview. Your investigation is so important the average person wouldn’t believe this incredible story. Many suspected something wasn’t right with the whole Charlie Manson story, he had help, a lot of it to get the story the way “they” wanted it told.

Wormwood is a great film I hope yours turns out something like that 🤞🏼. Thank you for your tenacious journalism appreciate you.
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Betty C. Parker-Young
Betty C. Parker-Young
2 months ago
I am so thankful to Tom for these interviews. I will read his book Chaos. I have two daughters who have tried to talk to me about the incident as many of us born in the sixties and were young remember how it affected us. It has been hard to talk about because of the emotions it brings back But listening to Tom talk about the truth of what really happened helps me put it in to perspective. I really appreciate that. I can’t wait to read his book.
Deneuve
Deneuve
2 months ago (edited)
This is my absolute favorite podcast of yours. You should call Tom up, ask if he has enough new information to make a new podcast out of, and have him come on again!
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Catherine Grace
Catherine Grace
9 months ago
Wow I can’t pick my jaw up from the floor. The knowledge Tom O’Neil has is truly mind blowing. I have to buy the book. The paperback because of the end notes and pictures. This is my first introduction to him and I feel so uninformed prior. Wow! And he is alive to talk about it. God, keep him safe in Jesus name. ~ CG
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M0ZART WITH N0.PIAN0
M0ZART WITH N0.PIAN0
11 months ago
I’ve read the book twice and listened to the audiobook nearly half a dozen times 😅 I have also stumbled upon a few interesting books that are in the same or atleast a similar vein (most recently Weird Scenes Inside The Canyon by David McGowan which ironically was was mentioned on JRE a week or so ago, and admittedly is far more conspiratorial in nature so take it with a grain of salt. However, I will say that I’m on my second read through and I’ve been taking notes and researching some of the things on my own aa I go and surprisingly a great deal of it I have found to be true…)
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76blackwidow
76blackwidow
8 months ago (edited)
Thank you. 💜 I wish there were more podcast episodes with Tom. The video and audio quality is great, and Tom is amazing! Have him on again?
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Tonha Jo
Tonha Jo
3 weeks ago
Absolutely fascinating 👏 I still can’t get enough of Tom O’Neil interviews .
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Gail Robinson
Gail Robinson
10 months ago
One of the most fascinating persons I’ve ever seen interviewed. Wow, what a story, what a great memory, and what a wild life !!! Gotta get the book now.
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Easton Sailer
Easton Sailer
2 months ago
this man’s dedication to getting the story is almost unbelievable
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Paul Evans
Paul Evans
9 months ago
One thing that I always thought important is that Tex Watson took along a long length of rope to Cielo Drive, along with wire cutters. The house had open ceiling beams and the rope was tied around the necks of the victims and over the beams. I think it shows that they knew exactly what the house was like as the rope was only used for that purpose.
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mightytaiger
mightytaiger
11 months ago
Great interview. Got this suggestion by the algorithm.

Thank you for allowing him to speak and not interrupting. He covered so much in just a couple of hours.
Excited about getting his book.

Subscribed.
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Drazic Milosovic
Drazic Milosovic
11 months ago
I got a jaw-twinge just hearing about the “good stuff” coming out at MM’s house. Great storyline throughout the podcast – one of my favourites so far ❤️🤘💀🤘❤️
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Shane and Dena Dunning
Shane and Dena Dunning
10 months ago
I wish my great Uncle was still alive. He was a Detective on the Manson murders. Many years later he told us things that was “unbelievable”. But now we know it is true.
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Elvan Şavklı
Elvan Şavklı
11 months ago
60’s music industry and hippie movement was also CIA movement . it is amazing how many people were connected to Charles Manson kind of guys.
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Okolo Pierre
Okolo Pierre
11 months ago
You have to respect guys who NEVER give up and seek the truth
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bengeeone
bengeeone
5 months ago
I read John Marks book over 20 years ago, and I’m so glad Tom’s work brings more information and stories on MK Ultra.
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Catherine Pineau
Catherine Pineau
11 months ago
This was an absolutely fascinating interview! I am definitely buying this book
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almighty Melanin
almighty Melanin
11 months ago
I’ve been listening less than year but I can say after years of listening to podcasts you’re up there with the best of them
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artawhirler
artawhirler
4 months ago (edited)
I read his book, “Chaos”. It’s basically what happens when a reporter falls down a rabbit hole and never finds his way out. But this is still a cool interview.
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daniella b.
daniella b.
10 months ago
Read the book when it first came out, I think Manson’s parole officers are among the best evidence for the quote theory, I really wish the author had made a post script about all the behind the scenes he talks about in this video, like the tex tapes…
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Miss Tara
Miss Tara
2 months ago
Tom you are a true Super Hero! I love you! This was my favorite interview. Your investigation is so important the average person wouldn’t believe this incredible story. Many suspected something wasn’t right with the whole Charlie Manson story, he had help, a lot of it to get the story the way “they” wanted it told.

Wormwood is a great film I hope yours turns out something like that 🤞🏼. Thank you for your tenacious journalism appreciate you.
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Syzmik TV News
Syzmik TV News
4 months ago
By researching for his magazines/books #Tomoneil has met some very interesting people and gathered some priceless info filling in the blanks on some of history’s immortal characters and cases for us at his own risk and expense. I salute this #author for his dedication .
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IndigoBlue
IndigoBlue
4 months ago
I can’t tell you how much l enjoyed this interview. I’m definitely buying several copies of the book; l have several family members who will eat it up!! Hope the second book isn’t too far away from publishing, if not done already!!
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elijah radio prophet
elijah radio prophet
9 months ago
I was in Prison with Chas. Watson in 1990’s for a few weeks, California Men’s Colony would see him in the Library often. He was very “stuck up” as the other convicts say, but he was smart to be aloof.
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Ameeka
Ameeka
11 months ago
I can’t wait to buy the book. Great interview. A privilege to be a listener. Wow wow wow.
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Stefania Pönitz
Stefania Pönitz
4 months ago
Definitely want to see a movie or docu series about Tom’s life.
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The Kids Nice
The Kids Nice
11 months ago
So the question remains- why did Terry Melcher lie on the stand? Did he want one of those ppl killed? This is just one of those cases where you’re never gonna find the answers to but the more you look the more questions and theories you have about what actually happened.
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Daniel H
Daniel H
10 months ago
It would be a crime not to do a documentary on this. This is a book to read multiple times.
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Lauren Zack
Lauren Zack
11 months ago
There is as much connected with the research of this book as there is in the book itself. From Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails & Marilyn Manson living in the LaBianca house years later, to the author and his collaborator partying with Marilyn Manson at his now home till dawn as the book was being published. Even Quentin Tarantino had questions about what actually happened in the sixties, as he is now releasing his novel of “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”. I cannot wait to get this book in my hands, it’s unbelievable how many people and things have come out the woodwork since publication, but he says he has enough information to write another book. I look forward to volume two. And let’s not forget the main subject, MK-ultra and our CIA drugging citizens with psychedelics, some losing their lives.
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Juliette De Maso
Juliette De Maso
4 months ago
Bought the book, read in three days (nights), and I loved it. I can’t imagine taking in this information via audiobook.
TK Moore
TK Moore
1 month ago
Read Maury Terry’s “The Ultimate Evil”. You can also see a watered down doc on Netflix. Tom ONeill’s work reinforces and expands upon Terry’s work. I bought hardback version of Chaos in an airport as soon as I saw it. Both of these guys are brilliant (unfortunately Maury Terry has passed away) but were/are dialed into the REAL story. I hope Tom continues to pursue this story. The implications go far beyond the original crime.
Christopher M
Christopher M
9 months ago
Love your talk Tom. Could listen to you for hours.
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lloyd Kellett
lloyd Kellett
11 months ago
Awesome book and awesome interview. I could listen to tom for hours.
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Westcoastgem
Westcoastgem
10 months ago
Great Interview True Crime is so crazy cause you never get the full truth and probably for the better cause it’s so unreal just shocking Tom has such heart and grit to go through all those years writing this book
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Tracey McConville
Tracey McConville
11 months ago (edited)
“Knowing” The Things We Have Learnt – For Example – That “They” – CIA / SES, Etc – Took Locked Up Criminals From Jails, Had Them Commit Further Crimes & Then Returned The “Prisoners” Back To Jail – Absolutely Sickening !!
Did “They” Do This With Manson ??
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Geoff Hughes
Geoff Hughes
11 months ago
This guy tells a fantastic story thank you all
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Dazed but Not Confuzed
Dazed but Not Confuzed
11 months ago
Great interview, great book, thank you both.
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Amanda Elise
Amanda Elise
11 months ago (edited)
I bought Chaos I really recommend it, it’s incredibly fascinating
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SatKA2 Mau
SatKA2 Mau
3 months ago
Toms book chaos is amazing, the research and detail..i bought it after hearing him speak on the Opermann programme…fascinating stuff
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Charlie Warren
Charlie Warren
11 months ago
How Koncrete lands guests of this caliber is one of life’s great mysteries. Do you think they pay certain guests?
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John Booker’s Full spectrum
John Booker’s Full spectrum
5 months ago
WHILE I watched Tom on the JRE I ordered his book, I will certainly be ordering the follow up.
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GDNPB
GDNPB
5 months ago
Jolly West visited Jack Ruby in jail in Dallas, the other doctor that was already seeing Ruby as well as others who were dealing with Ruby have said he changed that day and never changed back to the person he was before that visit. I forget what book this is in but you can search to find this is the truth,
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Mike Hengstebeck
Mike Hengstebeck
11 months ago
Dude that’s nuts. Great content Danny. Keep em coming.
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Lord Osiron
Lord Osiron
2 months ago
I especially like the story at 1:43:47 where he’s talking about Mason & the girls being up at the Cielo house all the time, and Altobelli told Melcher to make them leave because they scared him!
Alisa Davis
Alisa Davis
11 months ago
Have you ever spoken to Charles Manson’s grandson Jason Freeman? DNA testing proved this a couple
Years ago. He received his ashes. I went to school with Jason and we were good friends. The family didn’t hide it. Our circle knew. We remain friends today. Makes me wonder if he’s heard about this and if I should mention it to him.
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Becky Emm
Becky Emm
11 months ago
That was the best interview I’ve seen on YT. Well done. Brilliant guest. Couldn’t put my phone down. Riveting.
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Debby Utz Taylor
Debby Utz Taylor
10 months ago
This is the most fantastic information I’ve ever heard I’m going to buy his book right away gosh I wish we could find out all that stuff that he can’t talk about lol
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David S Cameron
David S Cameron
10 months ago (edited)
What a really nice and fascinating chap Mr O’Neill is and delighted that I read Chaos and discovered him, here’s to more work and exposure from the hombre named Tom O’Neill *
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Adam Tondowsky
Adam Tondowsky
2 months ago (edited)
I had previously written to Tom O’Neill before that Vincent Bugliosi ran twice for Los Angeles District Attorney – the special election in 1972 for an elected replacement for Evelle Younger who was elected California Attorney General in 1970 – and in 1974. But, I was wrong. Bugliosi did, in fact, run for California Attorney General in 1974 but lost the primary (and would have faced his former boss Evelle Younger in the General Election, had he won the Democratic Primary.) However, Bugliosi lost to a man named William Albert Norris by 57-43%. Norris, in turn, was defeated by Evelle Younger who was re-elected 55-45%

Also, a minor point, Robert McNamara was Secretary of Defense. Dean Rusk was Secretary of State.
gantz4u
gantz4u
8 months ago
I just listened to this guy talk about himself for 2 hours straight and deem it an almost complete waste of my time. Ive researched this case and came to the same conclusion of a Psychological operation being ran in the US, prior to the release of this book. I think this is an ongoing operation.
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Miguel Oniga
Miguel Oniga
7 months ago
Thank you. That’s what a 21st century writer should be about.
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11 Mazatl
11 Mazatl
10 months ago
I have no way of backing this up but it’s known that they used jimsonweed at spahn ranch as a recreational drug, and it contains scopolamine, I’ve always wondered if Charles Manson discovered how obedient scop made people
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Norma Savage
Norma Savage
23 hours ago
I started this book. I can’t put it down. It is really really good. It never happens to me. His book is amazing . Get it!
Amy V
Amy V
4 months ago
Thanks for this podcast! Ordering Chaos today and can’t wait to read it.
Alida PC
Alida PC
10 months ago
Just ordered the book, it’s a fascinating interview & subject. I had purchased and read Helter Skelter decades ago.
Rex Xer
Rex Xer
2 weeks ago (edited)
Charlie Manson had to be getting picked up and released not for the information or his insight on the area or the people but because he was there street level dealer they pick him up and no one suspects he leaves the police station with drugs…
It is completely a cover for their activity a judge never sees him because they do not file the paper work and he does what he would do anyway deal drugs and get high it also can help explain why so many are willing to follow his orders if they are in on the way it works he gets the dope they get the dope no cop problems because that is were it comes from they may have thought even the murders would be taken care of and who knows maybe if Sharon Tate and the others had not been famous we never would have known about any of this…
They kicked to big of a ant hill that drew to big of a stink and they(the Program) cut him lose to save the program and moved to the next one that we have not heard of…
Jason Scheiber
Jason Scheiber
5 months ago
@Tom_O’Neil I would love a docuseries pod cast of this story. especially because you could probably do 15 episodes long before Netflix could get a documentary or a movie out
David S Cameron
David S Cameron
10 months ago
This guy is a beautiful clone of Dave Emory, thinks the same, has the same ideas and has researched his hair grey to portray his theories too, fantastic individual 📚😀x
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Atli
Atli
10 months ago
Great podcast! Can’t wait for the documentary 😁👍
Cameron Moore
Cameron Moore
11 months ago (edited)
Tom O’Neill should write a whole book on Vince Bugliosi! wow. Wow. WOW!!! what a fuggin dirt-bag. Prosecutors are like the slimiest bastards on the planet. Guys like VB (and Guilliani, and a few others i can think of) should be in an under-water prison with windows that don’t close.
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John B
John B
7 days ago
Really Enjoy this rabbit hole that I’ve jumped down with Tom O’Neil. Can’t stop reading and watching about MK-Ultra and the wake it left behind.
Debz
Debz
5 months ago
Such an interesting interview! The book is absolutely brilliant and blows apart Helter-skelter. Woukd definitely recommend! ✌❤
Lynne Baker
Lynne Baker
10 months ago
Great interview, loved the book!
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Wyatt Jerdan
Wyatt Jerdan
11 months ago
This dude is great, love the channel too man always got good content
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John Doe
John Doe
11 months ago
The son of Sam case which is now also a documentary on netflix was also quite interesting.
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John Zeszut
John Zeszut
8 months ago
Might anyone imagine if Charles Manson – guru to the simple minded and backward children – and Rev. Jim Jones were able to team up! They would be “The Devil’s Duo” for sure!
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Andrew Cole
Andrew Cole
10 months ago
This guys story is crazy …20 to 40 years of his life to write that’s crazier then the Manson story!
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Donald Colbert
Donald Colbert
11 months ago
Guilty of being one of the people who heard him on Rogan and only listened to the audiobook🤣
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jfarinacci0329
jfarinacci0329
8 months ago
This author and this interviewer are really good. Thank you.
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Laura Smithson
Laura Smithson
11 months ago
Bought Chaos when it first came out. Stayed up for 2 nights reading it. Couldn’t put it down. Then bought a copy for a friend. When do you think “More Chaos” Part 2 be out?
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Arah Dog
Arah Dog
7 months ago
I hope Tom is finally getting his book out there and quashing the BS storyline about Manson and the murders..I’m not sure about the CIA stuff,But in any event Tom’s book eviscerates Bugliosi’s story and many other bedtime stories.
Brent Justice
Brent Justice
11 months ago (edited)
14:11 did he just admit Marilyn Manson texted to make sure he got home okay? You might be a badass if Marilyn Manson texts you to make sure you got home okay.
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Peyton Hibdon
Peyton Hibdon
1 day ago
New sub bere after checking out your interview. The mix of great questions and information with some interesting seasoning to spice the dish up produces a really tasty recipe imo. Really good stuff.
Soul Alchemy
Soul Alchemy
3 months ago
This was incredible, I must get the book!
Shame Dawg
Shame Dawg
10 months ago
Buy this guy’s book, read it, and lend it to somebody who will enjoy it. You will be glad you did.
Neal Pepper
Neal Pepper
5 months ago
Great interview, and I dig Tom a lot, but he’s so wrong on a number of “facts.” A lot of the stuff he “discovered” had/has been written about years ago, it’s just been forgotten by most because it isn’t the general focus of the story when talk turns to Manson. And while the whole CHAOS/MKUltra angle is fun to read and speculate about, there’s no evidence to support it. I loved the book and I hope he publishes another one that’s just as much fun to read as CHAOS.
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Laura Powers
Laura Powers
10 months ago
Hope this man gets all the teward for his research.. I would love to hear a brain storming session between Tom, Russ Baker, Jessy Ventura, RFK Jr.
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Bethany Perry
Bethany Perry
11 months ago
Tom gave a great interview
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DasWvrm
DasWvrm
9 months ago
Really looking forward to Toms upcoming work on Courtney Love and the Kurt Cobain situation.
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Tami Maro
Tami Maro
11 months ago
I just bought his book, and I am looking so forward to reading it.
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Phillipa Evans
Phillipa Evans
5 months ago
Wow, what a guy! Amazing interview
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The Hammer Speaks
The Hammer Speaks
10 months ago
The author of the Sidney Gottlieb book, Kinzer, mentioned that Gottlieb dies of a possible suicide in 99, now Tom O’Neill says Jolyon West also topped himself off? Mindboggling.
CastaFilms
CastaFilms
11 months ago
How is this interview so underrated
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Diane Byrne
Diane Byrne
11 months ago
Great book! Great interview!
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Bradley Nowell
Bradley Nowell
2 months ago
I need this book. After listening to Rogans podcast I’m so ready for this read
Deborah Holmes
Deborah Holmes
11 months ago
Buying a couple of these books for gifts! Thank you sir, for all your work
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Krystal Grant
Krystal Grant
10 months ago
Dilaudid (opioid analgesic). That’s the drug Terry Melcher used that Tom couldn’t remember the name of. It was also Elvis’ drug of choice. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.
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april68
april68
11 months ago (edited)
There’s also a very interesting angle with Sharon Tate, Polanski and Jay Seabring. Tate and Seabring were a couple and rekindled their romance when this happened. She told people that she was divorcing Polanski and Polanski knew this.

She was getting back together with Seabring. After the murders, Polanski then went on PR blitz telling everyone that Seabring was a sadistic lover who tied up Tate and abused her. This then became the solidified story about Seabring. Truth is, as O’Neill uncovered, it was Polanski who abused Tate filming her having sex with his friends etc.

Polanski may have had a hand in the murders for all we know seeing as he always said they had an amazing marriage and that she would never ever cheat on him, knowing she already did. Weird shit.
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suzzane canton
suzzane canton
5 months ago
OMG awesome podcast. Im ordering the book now. Mind blowing story
Gentle as a 🕊
Gentle as a 🕊
10 months ago
Excellent show, I learned some things . Funny that in American Dad, the aliens name is Roger Smith!
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Linda
Linda
10 months ago
Ps: the book was awesome didn’t want it to end! Get the book
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Walter White
Walter White
11 months ago
Just finished Chaos. Got through it in 2 days.
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Cindy Arnold
Cindy Arnold
9 months ago
I bought a first edition hard back of Tom’s book. Will buy soft cover editions for my friends. Great book!
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Catherine
Catherine
3 months ago
Tom is an amazing journalist
Ishmael M
Ishmael M
2 months ago
This is such a step down from Joe Rogan interview. You really begin to realize how well of an interviewer Joe Rogan is. This fella is having trouble.
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J May
J May
11 months ago
The wires cut the night before at Jay’s… lends credence to the possibilitu that Roman WAS going to kill Tate because she was going to divorce Roman. Many in her circle knew she had divorce papers drawn up. Roman had changed his mind and no longer wanted the baby she was carrying. Roman belittled Sharon, made her do group sex videos, cheated on her.
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David Smith
David Smith
11 months ago
I bought the book because of his appearance on Rogan…but then I checked the audiobook out from the library and listened to it. Looks like I’ll have to revisit the pictures and end notes.
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Sj Rilla
Sj Rilla
10 months ago
I woke up 3 times and this dude was still talking
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Gail O’Brien
Gail O’Brien
9 months ago
This interview is even BETTER than the Joe Rogan spot!
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11 months ago
Guest has some great stories! 🙏
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Infidel Apostate
Infidel Apostate
10 months ago
Outstanding presentation!
a real mind blower here
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Slimy Green Creep Machine
Slimy Green Creep Machine
2 months ago
An incredible interview
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J. T.G
J. T.G
10 months ago (edited)
I want to know exactly what happened in that house that night. How did they come in “the mansons”, and did people fight? How many killers were involved. Was there guns involved? Did they party with them n than things went wrong?
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Catti P.
Catti P.
10 months ago
I’m reading Chaos, so stoked for the next book!
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Charles Moen
Charles Moen
3 weeks ago
I can’t believe I haven’t been following your show ! I’m a new fan!
ginger nichols
ginger nichols
11 months ago
damn I would love to hear his stories about Sammy Davis Jr considering what he was into
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Jeff Sims
Jeff Sims
10 months ago (edited)
Tom should write an autobiography with all the details he researched in his investigations.

His book isn’t super coherent.
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Stephen Sutton
Stephen Sutton
8 months ago
Gitta love how this dude will just repeat exactly what he said like he didn’t just say it by just saying it a tiny bit differently
greedy first algorithm last
greedy first algorithm last
12 hours ago
Twiggy Ramirez, who has played bass for Marilyn Manson for 25 years, has split with his band after being accused of rape.
He was Not a Drummer.
Jessicka Addams, lead singer of the band Jack Off Jill, made the accusations in a post on Facebook earlier this week. She and Ramirez, whose real name is Jeordie White, dated each other for a period in the 1990s, before the relationship soured and the incident in question is alleged to have taken place.
GRUBB MUDD
GRUBB MUDD
11 days ago
Krazy on 6k likes my dude. As a fellow creator I wish I could hit it a few times, I’ve seen plenty of yur shows u r good and need to give yourself credit, and it is your show or your guys show buba is right
Leon Darko
Leon Darko
11 months ago
um how did I just now find this podcast? .. I wanna party with Tom O’Neill
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Burial
Burial
10 months ago
The host NEEDS to stop pausing mid conversation to tell the producer to adjust the camera or tell people in the other room to be quiet or offer Tom a water or whatever… as soon as Tom finishes telling an interesting and engaging story, instead of responding and asking follow-up questions, the host brings the conversation to a screeching halt several times.
If he really thinks those things are necessary, he needs to find a smoother/more natural way to work it into the conversation.
Very annoying.

Jennifer Jack
3 months ago
This man seems to be a beautiful human. Have not seen a bad interview. So sweet 💗

David HAILSTONE
10 months ago
Tom, why is Debra Tate utterly utterly disinterested in the fact that the official Bugliosi case has just unravelled with gaping holes? She seems to have nothing nice to say about you, but I’ve never heard you say anything negative about her, which is good. Does she live in a fantasy world about this story and just can’t handle the truth? I really would like to know what’s wrong with her. Surely her first and only loyalty should be to her sister Sharon and knowing the truth.

morgana le morte
11 months ago
I’m confused when Tom says Manson was a docile prisoner? I’ve read Helter Skelter and at least one other bio that claimed he had attacked and sexually assaulted other inmates during his early years of incarceration. Was this true or just sensationalism?

Stinky Qtip
9 months ago
How interesting. Joe Rogan should have him on his show.

Ray Green
10 months ago
Great interview.

Rafael Bueno
11 months ago
This guy’s reactions are veeery similar to Joe Rogan’s (kinda cringy), as the studio they’re recording in… Anyway, Tom O’Neill is great, loved the book, can’t wait for the second installment. Wonder what will be the real impact of his discoveries in the real world, or even if there will be any impact at all…

Nebulina
11 months ago
Fascinating! Great interview!

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