ETK Introduction: Historian and political insider, Kay Pollard Griggs is the former wife of Colonel George Griggs, Head of Special Operations under Admiral Kelso of NATO. Col. Griggs, a Princeton graduate (class of 1959), and graduate of the NATO Defense College in Rome, was a spy and Special Ops assassin from the period of the Vietnam War onward. Based on innumerable revelations Col. Griggs made while he was intoxicated, Kay Griggs reports in an extended interview in 1998 that the U.S. military is run by sexual deviants, mostly homosexuals, and that the U.S. military itself is a mind control operation. Because this information is so extremely important and has a direct bearing on the gang stalking system (GOG’S NeW GESSTTAPO) used by the military, I include my notes from these interviews that follow each of the four parts of the interviews.

Part 1 of 4 includes Kay Grigg’s descriptions of her own (military-organized) gang stalking harassment as well as the mind control operations and cults that operate in the US military culture!!!! That she was “flagged,” surveilled, harassed, by standard “gang stalking” protocols is conclusive proof that the US military deploys these psychological warfare (psycho-terrorism) tactics to destroy/dispose of whistleblowers, dissidents, “disposable wives,” etc. Parts 2, 3, and 4 all contain references to the draconian gang stalking system that the military employs to silence its perceived enemies.

ETK comment: This series was not edited very well and the film makers are slightly obtrusive. However, the revelations that Griggs makes are phenomenally important- and, based on my research, very accurate. Hence, the interviews are well worth watching in their entirety.

ETK Notes from Kay Griggs Interviews: Part 1 of 4

I. Mind Control

“He’s a robot, my husband…. except when he’s drinking. He says he’s an existentialist.

My husband, Col. George Griggs, had gone through four years of mind control (at Princeton). And I believe his brother was killed to keep him in. Bill Clinton was also one of those profiled boys. It’s mind control, MKULTRA, somebody said. Even my husband’s roommates in Princeton told me about it.”

Vietnam was really important because a lot of experiments were done on boys (young soldiers) who went over there.

Joint mob-military partnership operations were conducted in Korea and Vietnam. At the highest levels of the Marine Corps and the Army in the Special Operations forces, the individuals are all actually in the Brooklyn-New Jersey mob. My husband, General Al Grey, General Sheehan, Heinz Kissinger, Caspar Weinburger… are part of a group of the Zionists who came over from Germany (ETK: in “Operation Paperclip” and others). They do a lot of money laundering in the banks, cash transactions in the banks for the drugs they are bringing over. The military (personnel) are all involved once they retire. They go into drug and secondary weapons sales.

II. The Military Cults’ Gang Stalking of (whistleblower) Kay Griggs

They are psychologically and financially trying to destroy me because I’m telling the truth. I was being handled psychology. On the 4th of March, 1996, my home was broken into. They tried threatening me and so forth. Each time I was totally traumatized. They were sabotaging my car. They are doing psychological operations in my home. And this is being done to other women and wives and men who don’t go along with the program. They poison people. They would mind jag me, having fun with me psychologically.

This is why I got “flagged.” I stopped the topless go-go dancers in the officer’s club dining hall. General Grey had me marked as a troublemaker.

When the “psyching” (i.e., gang stalking) was beginning, I had white blouses but they would paint black dots on them. Later they would put lots of batteries in a drawer. Then they put about 12 screwdrivers on the table.

You can’t believe what a horror I went through to try to get this man to believe what Christ’s love is about. I sacrificed a lot. I was a big wrestling match with a crazy guy.

I called the police after a number of little break ins. The policeman they sent was a short guy with a short haircut, named Shorty Satterwhite…. And he said, Mrs. Griggs, you are just traumatized, you’re making this up. And now I found out, he was a 20 year marine. He’s still reserve.

So I called Torrence, the head of the FBI. He sends out Dan McNally, another 20 year marine.

All these top people are existentialists…. They believe in doing whatever it takes. It doesn’t matter what the law says.

You see the organized crime-Meyer Lansky-Jewish Kabalist group, who don’t believe in God, believe they have to get rid of all the good people… and they get brownie points in their little cult for doing that. They really do this. They are killing good people on purpose.

III. The Cult Identified; and Names Named

They know they are protected. They know they are above the law. My husband is above the law. Judge John Moore (who had his first wife thrown into a mental institution), Col. Barry Cantor, Grover Wright, Marine Corps. It’s a very small cult/secret society. I have heard what they do when they are Colonels. It’s the same thing that they do in Skull and Bones, and Cap and Gown (which has a lot of intelligence officers and boys who have been raped)…. They do a lot of homosexual enticements. This keeps them from telling secrets. The crème of the crop are doing this; they are having sex parties, orgies, etc. The men who rise to the top are the ones who are picked to have the pool parties, etc. This is General Al Grey, the main prime mover. (They start off with the wild secretaries) .

My husband was Chief of Staff for Al Grey, who runs all the dirty tricks for the Army. Linda Tripp, formerly of Delta Force, worked for Carl Steiner…. (of the Monica Lewinsky scandal). She’s a dirty tricks expert.

General Jim Joy, the one who was behind the whole Panama Operation (with General Sheehan), who got Noriega out of Panama. They trained all the guys who did what they did to David Koresch at Waco. He and Generals Steiner and Sheehan are the ones behind the black helicopters.

It’s all to sell weapons, to sell weapons, drugs, it’s all about funny money.

They were army and navy together. George calls them the “members of the firm.” I’ve heard them called “the brotherhood.” They are very close. It’s a small group and it’s very hierarchical. I’ve had Caspar Weinberg “farm” me. They are doing profiling on me. They knew I loved international people. Because I’d already demonstrated that.

Seal Teams 4, 6, and 8 are on the east coast. Odd numbers are on the West Coast. The Israelis train with the Seals. They do a lot of wet ops, murders, over here because of some sort of arrangement. The taxpayers are paying mercenaries, young men who are not citizens of the U.S., to kill innocent people, women and children. They get on a flight from Norfolk, then they go by a special helicopter to countries like Turkey, Iraq, or Algeria. And they do wet ops, they murder 5, 10, 20 people. Then they blame it on the Arabs. But these are actually NATO rogue assassins. They are from Australia, Britain, South Africa, etc.

There was a group of sexual psychologists and psychiatrists from Vienna. I was their expert. There’s a whole range that study sexual perversion; Harvard, Yale, John Hopkins, and this Colorado group. A lot of these guys got their experience in Vietnam. They took these little boys, that’s what their doing in Bosnia right now. They are training future leaders in perversion. The British has a school that George was working with in Indonesia. There was already a program in East Timor that had been set up by the Australians during WWII.

T. Parker Host now controls my husband along with Bob Edwards. T. Parker Host was the Finnish Council (at one time he was Norwegian and Icelandic Council). He brags about being with the mobs.

The ports are run by a homosexual hierarchy. Albert Einstein was in that little ring that the Saudis were in. George and Einstein partied together. Parker was in the Burma Special Operations Command. And he bragged about this. Parker plotted and did me in.

My husband is so close to Bush, MacFarlane, and Scrowcroft and all these guys.

My home and car were broken into while I was in court. Very strategically, I was called by a Marine Colonel named Jack who involved with this maritime shipping business. I had been invited as a guest to a banquet with George Bush and John Warner. Guess who introduced George Bush? T. Parker Host. He made it to the big time.

The Skull and Bones induction methods are now used in the Army. This goes back to the German thing, it’s what the German high command did. They say it goes back to Greece. They do the bowling ball trick. Now the Chiefs have to do this. They get everybody really drunk. Sometimes they call it “dining in.” Not everybody does it. But the ones who do it, they get right up to the top. They do anal sex. They put someone in the coffin and he’s the recipient of all the oral and anal sex acts.

Now, the young Army Seals, Delta Force, Buds (they emerging Seals group), their training exercise is to break into civilians houses… for practice. They broke into my house.

They will do anything necessary to get what they want politically and economically. In other words, killing a leader, killing 20 people, according to them, is a lot better than war… this is the way they rationalize it.

IV. W.W. Rostow and the Jewish kabalist, communist revolutionary terrorists: From WWII Dresden bombing to the JFK assassination to control of US military today

Walt Whitman Rostow (Jew) and his crowd were behind the Dresden bombings in Germany during WWII. Rostow is a very dangerous man, a communist. He was one of the “wise men” in the Kennedy administration. I think he was probably responsible for the movement that got Kennedy murdered.

I believe it was an Israeli group that did it, with some of these rogues.

Kennedy’s “wise men” were the Harvard crowd. Rostow got us into the Vietnam war because he wanted to sell the weapons. Victor Krulack, the present commandants father, was his lacky. Rostow went with General Taylor and wrote the report that got us into the Vietnam War. All the time the Pentagon was saying no, no, no. He and Heinz Kissinger were cheerleaders for the weapons sales. He and Eugene Debs Rostow. These were all communists.

His brother runs the big Boston mob port, Nicholas Rostow, they’ve done the drugs business with Mexico for all those years. This had to do with William Weld and the involvement of the Mexican government.

Russian Leon Trotsky (Jew; real name Lev Braunstein) became a Christian at the end of his career…. and you aren’t allowed to do that. So he was murdered in Mexico by the same Parisian, Spanish, Czech, Georgian Russian group which are all part of the former (German) Abhwer.

This revolutionary terrorist group is still controlling the Marines and Army, Steiner’s group, they all operate together. The man who started this program during the Vietnam War, William Donovan. used communists who were in the Spanish communist movement. They actually promoted communists in the OSS, which was started by Donovan. So they were promoting and using communists who wanted to get rid of our form of government as a stepping stone to world domination.

So this group now in the Army and the Marine Corps has communists at the very top who are really existentialists. They don’t believe in God or Christ, they live for the moment. They believe in one world which has no religions in it. This group is still being run out of Paris. They put Napoleon in power. And Olive Cromwell. They were probably behind the Roman and even Egyptian Empires. They put puppet people in power and they run it from behind the scenes.

Trotsky had escaped from Russia and had become a Christian. So he was working with agents in the U.S., Israel. And he was considered a threat and so he had to be silenced, killed. There is an excellent book I have called “The Mind of An Assassin.” This about the young man named Ramon, who killed Trotsky. He was trained and Soviet paid; he had experience in Spain. They organized it in Paris. Up to the present time, there have been assassins operating out of Rome, Milan, Naples, and Paris.

All these assassins are anarchists and are all mob related. They use mob funding, and of course, drug money to pay for the brand new weapons. This is the reason we had the war in Bosnia. This was simply a stage to train assassins to be a market for brand new weapons – to be a marketplace so that the drug money can be used. And the Army runs the whole show. CIA is a bogus thing to confuse us and get us off the track.

It’s Training and Doctrine Command, it’s NATO, it’s SHAPE (Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe), started by President Eisenhower (a Jew). It’s a totally independent corporation. It’s main function is to sell weapons and launder money. It’s all being done by Army people who are now JOINT. The word JOINT is used (Paperclip) to describe the people who came over illegally to escape Nazi Germany.

You see the organized crime, the Meyer Lansky, the Jewish Kabalist group, who don’t believe in God, believe they have to get rid of all the good people… and they get brownie points in their little cult for doing that. They really do this. They are killing good people on purpose.

V. Operations Paperclip, the “German Disease,” and the Subsequent Destruction of America

This funding group in New York would pay for passports which were illegal. In fact, my grandfather was involved with that. He was told to keep silent, but he told my grandmother, and she told me. and I’ve told my children.

Everybody knows they brought in probably more than 200,000 Nazi soldiers and SS, and whacko scientists, and psychologists. And all of them, most of them, had the “German disease,” because it was their culture. It’s what the Pink Triangle boys were. Marine Col. Ron Ray, a Christian, writes about this “cherry marines,” the homosexuality, and group sex orgies, which brought down the German government.

Today, in Naples, where the Navy is doing their playing, these orgies are going on.

It was where Krupp the German’s weapons manufacturers would take the German high command and they would go the Blue Grotto on the Island of Capris. And they’d bring in little boys and rape them. When the mothers of these boys went to the wives of these guys in Germany, it brought the government down.

What they were doing is pedophilia. They were raping little boys. They involved the Catholic Priests.

Then this whole group came over to the United States. It’s an old culture. It is the reason there are a lot of thing going on with children these guys. And it explains why it is being covered up. Because police officers are playing these games. Even Eisenhower played these games. Even Mike Kemp at the Bohemian Grove.

There was also big one in Washington called Rush River Lodge where they used to go and there are lots of places now.

But the problem is I think they are trying to destroy America and the basic Protestant Christian culture. Because where you have a militaristic society where the rules are only for those people. Keep in mind that Meyer Lansky and Lucky Luciano (mob) chose to go Italy… They weren’t banished. They went there because of the weapons industry. That’s what the military is doing. It’s totally controlled by the mob.

Look at this. Little Caspar Weinberger spied on General MacCarthur in Korea. Every move McCarthur was going to make, Weinberger broadcast through his little intelligence network. And he got brownie points with the group because he brought down the big lion. They needed to get rid of MacCarthur because he didn’t want to keep the wars going. He wanted it over.

It’s like General Traffay, who took over after the Vietnam was over. He was on CSPAN in August, 1996. This man let it all out. He said he took over at the end of the Vietnam war, and told the Pentagon to cut of the shipment of weapons. But he got a call from Henry Kissinger, who said the weapons are going to continue at wartime rate. That’s when all this stuff with China started. Because the New York-New Jersey mob had already been training Mao and Pol Pot.

(China’s) Mao Tse Tung was trained in Paris. So was Cambodia’s leader, Pol Pot. As boys, they were “turned” psychologically, that is, (raped) by priests. This is the pattern. This is why it’s so important to know what they are doing to innocent little boys in the Army and Marines. Why is it that the homosexuals rise up so much faster than those who don’t. They are called “rising stars.” This is what the State Department calls those who are controlled.

I tried to become part of the State Department family. But since I was a Christian, I couldn’t be a part of that. Even though I had lots of experience.

I lived with chief White House correspondent, Sarah McClendon, for a while and she told me that Ron Brown, Vince Foster, and Forrestal were murdered.

ETK Notes to Part 2 Interview:

Part 2 of 4: . Please note that at about 1;10 minutes of this interview, Kay Griggs shows and explains the Intelligence and Electronic Warfare Operations Field Manual (1983) of the US Army and she explains its importance in gang stalking operations conducted by the military.

“Mary Clark Yost Pallab is my husband’s handler. She is an American double agent who was put on my husband’s case because she could handle him. They had had a long-term affair while she was married to an Arab intelligence agent.

If an agent marries an agent from another country, the State Department loves that.

When I was living with Sarah McClendon helping her in 1986. I went everywhere she went because she was the senior White House correspondent. I wanted to go to what I thought was the Middle East Department… So I meandered up to the Near East Section.

I went into every office of the State Department Near East Section because I’m very interested in peace. As a Christian I want it and I know it’s possible if people are reasonable.

I wanted to find out who the leaders were. I knew about Aaron David Miller. I knew about David Satterfield, who really wasn’t David Satterfield. His family were Zionists who changed their name to Satterfield, who was a Virginia Senator back in the 30s, who had a wonderful name. It’s like Jonathan Pollard. He took the name Pollard, which wasn’t his name, because of Governor Pollard. They take the names of honorable people and then they’re not honorable. It’s like a snake changing colors for the moment.

I went into the Near East Section of the State Department, and I found there was not one single Palestinian, not one single Moslem, religious Saudi, Jordanian, not one Christian Protestant, not one Roman Catholic, not one plain old American. Every single person in all of those offices were either Zionists, Israelis or whatever. And they had pictures, maps of Israel all over the walls and magazines, all Israel, Israel, Israel. They wore yarmulkes.

The spokesman for the whole State Dept. at that time was a Zionist. There needs to be a fairness in the State Department. All the weapons sales under the table are going through the State Dept.

That’s why Ron Brown was murdered. He tried for the first time, to take away the unfair State Dept. monopoly on illegal weapons and drug money. The drug money is paying for the weapons. The brand new weapons are sold by agents of Israel.

My husband was chief of Staff under Al Grey when Oliver North was moved from the Atlantic Command to the National Security Command. When you work in the White House, you work under the Army. The Marines have no overlord. They can float but they are run out of New Orleans. Just like Oswald was. Oswald was homosexually recruited by Clay Shaw, David Ferry, Jack Ruby.

All the funding for these operations goes through the Joint. The mob. Oswald’s mother had moved to New York and he came under this Zionist psychiatrist. He was a brilliant loaner and a perfect candidate. And his psychological and physical profile is almost identical to that of my husband.

These foreign-born young men are training with Seals. They aren’t under the laws of the US, so they can do the murders or whatever.

Most of the intelligence people in Russia, Germany, and here, for a long time were Zionists and they recruited a lot of boys from Eaton, homosexually.

Princeton is/was the Mecca for Jewish/Zionist intelligence agents over here. All of the movie moguls started out in Princeton. The Psychological Operations crowd from the Nazis came to Princeton. And they spread out from there. This groups includes Oppenheimer and others.

George Griggs had a French teacher who was a friend of French existentialist writer, Albert Camus. Camus was also an Arabist. You see Lawrence of Arabia and this group was started by this small group of Kaballists who were trying to take over the oil. So they’d find these Sheiks who would go along with them. The Brits were more interested in finding someone who was fair.

Columbia is an intelligence school. Nussbaum went there, who was across the hall from Vince Foster. I believe Ezra Pound went there. Ezra Pound knew too much and so they threw him in Saint Elizabeth hospital. And it was a wonderful Virginian (Eustace Mullins) who brought him out.

Clay Shaw was OSS, he was also in intelligence, and he was homosexual.

This non-fiction book “The Widows” has four double agents. The spy Goletsyn was in there. Paisley was murdered like William Colby. He was also hanging out with homosexuals. So did Bob Woodward. Henry Kissinger is a well known homosexual. In Cambodia, Kissinger was actually raping young men. This experience destroyed the lives of at least 5 young men. My feeling is this one boy, Bob, was flagged like I was flagged and labeled a troublemaker after I blew the whistle on the go-go dancers in the officers dining hall.

I know there’s a big Mason connection in the warfare weapons selling group because the head Admiral in Norway is running the drug lord out of his prison. He is a friend of George’s. He has a house near where they have one of their underground bunkers. I know they are doing weapons shipments out of Norway.

In Timor, they have a little school for terrorists that was started by Mountbatten.

At 1 hour and 10 to 1:13 minutes: Intelligence and Electronic Warfare Operations Field Manual (1983) of the US Army

Griggs shows the Intelligence and Electronic Warfare Operations Field Manual (1983) of the US Army.

“This shows how arrogant they are about subversion and deception. Deep operations and deep cover. Deception is so important to them.

My husband was head of Special Operations.

Reading from the Manual: “An important part of electronic warfare is deception”.. and knowing everything about the person who is designated as the target….

Human beings are called targets. Women, wives like me, are called “targets” and are being “targeted” by the military. So they’ll have a team to trying to find out everything about me, and my family, my grandparents, my friends, etc. to try to discredit me. And of course everybody who is flagged who is a target (is subject to) “jamming”….

From the Manual: “Jamming” is the deliberate radiation or re-radiation of electromagnetic energy to prevent or downgrade the reception of information by a receiver.”

Multi-spot jamming is directed against more than one frequency. I’ve had my car ID downloaded. Sarah McClendon said she couldn’t reach me.
MED: Manipulative Electronic Deception.
SED: Simulative Electronic Deception.

MED (Manipulative Electronic Deception) is conducted by altering the electromagnetic profile of friendly forces. It seeks to counter hostile electronic warfare and Signals Intelligence (SIGENT) activities by manipulating friendly electronic-magnetic emissions. This is done by magnifying the technical characteristics and profiles which would provide an accurate picture of friendly intentions by deliberately transmitting false information.”

In other words they are interested in deception as part of their line of attack. It just goes on and on and on.

Showing photos of her family, George, etc.

“This is George in one of his rages. I’m scared, you’re talking major injuries I’ve had, broken bones. Here, he’s in a total unbelievable state… It’s called the Berzerk state.

Then I reach out for help and I become the target. I was trying to get someone to help me protect my life and I was scared. This is the normal look (of George- looking berzerk). “

ETK Notes From Part 3 of 4 Kay Griggs Interviews (1998)

Pre-recording conversation: Griggs: I know they called him the Commissar. He was the one who did all of the training. They had a halo school in the Phillipines where they trained the Delta Force, the assassins in the Phillipines. The Australians also had one on an island in East Timor. It’s in the mountains. And the Portuguese (former colonial power) are involved in this.

Moderator: We are having a fascinating conversation talking to the wife of the former…

Griggs: Former Chief of Staff Marine-Atlantic, Head of the Intelligence Group that went to Beruit. They were already meeting over there before the Beruit bombing.
NATO intelligence wet operations/psychological operations guy.

Moderator: Now when you refer to wet operations, does that stand for something?

Griggs: Yes, it means murder, assassinations groups. NATO has a group of assassins and Psychological Operations specialists who work in combined operations to destroy targets. My husband tried to explain to me during the first three years of our marriage how it all works.

I was Assistant Director of the Chamber of Commerce. I was the first woman on the Board of the Foreign Commerce Club in Norfolk, Virginia. He thought I was a worldly woman who understood how the world worked. I had dated a number of guys who were high-level guys in Army intelligence. I had been married to a governor’s grandson whose family were all in intelligence. Norfolk is the largest military complex in the world. We have Langley, the Air Force Base that does intelligence work, Camp Perry, all the Navy bases, Army Fort Story.

I have intelligence guys who tell me truth, they know they can’t talk. Togo West…. The wonderful thing about some of the African American men I’ve met is that they will tell truth. Because psychologically, they are innocent and naïve. They cannot believe that our government has got hit squads, that there is group sex going on, that they are giving people money in exchange for their services, and that mercenary training is going on in the Army and the Air Force at the highest circles.

Col. John Ryman, Dr. John Ryman, they had him targeted as a cook. Col. John Ryman lives in California, he was on the high track, the rising star track, he was in Great Britain, when he found out about a murder over there. And he had the crazy idea that we ought to have a Peace College in Cambridge. That we ought to be working towards peace. When he got back from Britain he gave this idea to Colin Powell. Powell took it to the National Security Council.

Shortly thereafter, Ryman was targeted and put in a funny farm. I think it was Saint Elizabeth’s hospital, where they put Ezra Pound. Saint Elizabeth’s Hospital, like the Eastern State Hospital in Williamsburg, has many Army intelligence people as targets, people who have decided to tell truth, i.e., people who believe in the American dream, who are Christians, who are trying to get things straightened out.

If they transgress that line, where they upset somebody in the high command, just like in Germany, they all of a sudden move from being a person to being a target, from being a human being to being a target, therefore the enemy. Which is also what happened in Germany.

God makes us all wonderful and beautiful. So why are good people silenced? Why are their papers gone through?

Moderator: OK. They are silenced because they are in a conflict of good versus evil.

Griggs: What’s happened to me, what’s happened to people like Debra Von Trapp, and others….

When you are a Christian, you take people at their word, until they lie to you.

From my experience, this CIA thing is bogus. Everyone I know who works in the CIA was in military intelligence first. For instance, my husband. He’s under all these Army people so I assume that all these people who are handling my husband when he’s around me….

David Ley was my brother in law for 27 years…. His family came over from Germany, I think his family are Zionists. He’s doing war gaming for this global monolith, writing articles about the Middle East from the Israeli perspective.

Every single marine wife that I know is in that same psychological state of terror. Make the women fearful.

My husband is psychologically sick. I believe he killed his first wife, Sue. He had many affairs with both women and men. General Sheehan’s wife told me “you just have to get used to it.”

It was a spiritual battle going on. And I was subjected to shock treatment. For example, you are all dressed up and you’re speeding down the highway. He’s speeding down the highway at 90 mph and he’s speeding up and then he gets out and runs.

George Griggs was involved in the Halo Program… which had to do with training assassins and special operations specialists in the Philippines and Panama. They strip these guys nude and train them to kill.

I believe these men are redeemable. They are held by the secrecy, by the power of this adolescent group that controls them.

But we’ve got to stop the growth of this stuff. It’s a growth industry and it’s growing exponentially. They are intending to destroy America. The frightening thing is that this exactly the same pattern that happened in Nazi Germany. (It starts with) the exclusion of mothers and women who love their children.

They’re cloning people. Then, why do you need women?

When you target good, strong people who can figure out what to do in certain situations… The leaders who pop up…. Are just the people who need to be involved in the process of leveling things out (restoring justice). And when you marginalize (and target and gang stalk) women and good people…

There was a gang rape and murder (by strangling) of a female doctor by a group of SEALS in Virginia Beach. She was beautiful, this girl, from Georgia. She went into what used to be Poppy’s, a nice place on Virginia Beach that I used to go to when I was single. But the SEALS (SEAL Teams 4, 6, and 8) are taking over Virginia Beach. It’s been hushed up by the local courts that are controlled by Army “JAGs” (Judge Advocate General) and Marine Corps.

And the wives of these judges have all been handled and gotten rid of. Meanwhile, the judges are participating in group sex. They’re sleeping with a bimbo woman or another man. There are lots of them.

I have no lawyer. I’m trying to fight for all these other women. I wanted to believe there was someone good out there who’s going to help me fight this thing. Because I’ve got photographs of being battered, I’ve got doctors signatures. Sara McClendon, the Senior White House Correspondent, has an affidavit where she tried to call my house and men answered the phone and said “this is a military base and the Griggs don’t live here anymore.” Sara McClendon couldn’t call me for two months she had to go to another phone. So I knew that all these other people I had called in Washington and who were trying to call me have also had their phone calls re-routing. Now that and all of this is in this book I found at a Good Will, “Intelligence and Electronic Warfare Operations.” It explains why they’ve been raiding my library.

This book, “Intelligence and Electronic Warfare Operations,” is all about what happened to me. Army, Air Force, Marine Corps. Where is the FBI PsyOps unit? The only FBI agent who was allowed to come to me was Dan McNally, a 20-year marine, homosexual, I’m pretty sure. I was not allowed to have any other FBI agents come and hear about the break-ins to my home, the batterings that I went through, nearly killed, the murder of my husband’s first wife, serious business, she’s in a grave, Susanne Workman Griggs. She died on April fools day, 1987. And the doctor wanted to do an autopsy. Couldn’t do it. Because the two men who were doctors in that hospital, Dr. Lawrence Smith and Gene Lamb, Army officers, wouldn’t allow it. Of course, they take orders.

The judge in my case, Judge John Moore, his first wife was put away because she was telling truth. And I found out from Kerry Brown, who was an Army officer who had a purple heart. Across the street lives another judge, Jefferson Davis Reed, Naval intelligence, taking orders. I’ve known his family forever. His family are intelligence people, but they are not Americans. Why are all these judges being under a chain of command.

And why are they breaking into honest people’s homes using these electronic warfare tactics? Diverting phones, downloading caller ID, having bogus people answer the phone. This is stuff that went on in Germany. Fear tactics.

It can be straightened out.

I was led spiritually to good people, to light, and truth. I didn’t understand the weapons and drugs military culture that’s running our country and I believe, our world.

I have this book with the names of the members of the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations)… All these names that I’ve underlined are friends of my husband or who I know personally. It’s an interesting list of elite political, military, and banking people.

You know Bill Clinton, you’ve got the Rostows, you’ve got 11 Cohens, you’ve got the Commandant of the Marine Corps.

The common goal is global uniting, global control. I can see how one could sort of get sucked into it ideologically.

Did you know that most all the Virginian founding fathers were only Gospel Christians, Mark, Matthew, Luke and John? Didn’t read the Old Testament or the end times stuff.

Did you know that Thomas Jefferson was a born-again Christian for the last 7 years of life? He was contributing to the American Bible Society. He was corresponding with Adams in Massachusetts. That he took the New Testament and tried to find out that everything that Christ did. And I believe he was murdered and it had something to do with Admiral Levy, a Cabalist Jew, Mason, and weapons dealer and reserve military officer. Levy took a mortgage on his house so he could build the University of Virginia so they could take his papers, his correspondence with Adams. Now I’m the only one you will ever hear this theory from. Jefferson was searching for truth and he was martyred. He was murdered the same day as Adams, July 4th.

My undergraduate degree is in Virginia history. I have a masters degree in history as well. And I’m a descendant of James Madison. I studied at the University of Edinburough. I received a grant in 197 to work on Lord Dunmore’s papers. Lord Dunmore was the last Royal Governor of the state of Virginia.
Think about this: John Paul Jones, supposedly the founder of our Navy, was a criminal, why would they twist it like that? He was also a Cabalist and also a Mason.

Likewise Lafayette was also a weapons merchant. They raise up people who are questionable.

The point is that I know a lot about the “Triangular Trade”- the illegal weapons-drugs trade that is still going on today. Israel is basically running it with the New York bankers. It has something to do with cabalism because the Pentagon’s symbol, the brotherhood, they feel so compelled to not think for themselves. They are not looking at anything except on their particular focus- on sex… they go back the symbols of the Greeks, the Washington Monument, etc. But homosexuality is actually debauchery.

The simple answer is to repent. I don’t believe that targeting people is the answer.

I’m fighting the Cabalist group in Virginia Beach. Because I was nearly battered to death. I was nearly killed. I’m a totally psychologically and physically abused wife. All I wanted was for my Marine Corps husband to say I’m sorry for doing this. But if he’s got men behind him telling him to do this, they aren’t going to want to let him say he’s sorry. If my husband is meeting with Pastor Phil Holwager, that says that Phil Holwager is a programmer and he has power over my husband.

And then there’s Tye Crowl, whose in the same church with my husband. He’s a good guy, but he’s a pedophile. Then there’s T. Parker Host who’s running around nude at his farm, and he and my husband are taking 2 hour boat rides together.

Just after my husband got back from Norway…. They wanted to keep me away from the King and Queen of Norway, because I believe they are Christians, honorable people.

When you have group sex and homosexual sex by the top people who are running the military and government in my town, Norfolk, VA. San Diego the same thing. San Francisco. Key West. Boston, that’s the major homosexual capital of the world. Of course, Washington, D.C.

James Angleton, CIA, was homosexual. The head of the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover, was a homosexual. All of British intelligence are homosexuals. It’s a sign of weakness.

Caspar Weinburger is involved in a lot of evil stuff, he pulls a lot of strings…. Weapons sales, drugs, the hit squads-the motor cycle gangs (run by retired military guys). They are stirring up people, murdering people, so they will sell the weapons.

Of course, Lady Diana was murdered.

I didn’t know how organized it all was.

Moderator: If your husband hadn’t been a raging alcoholic, you wouldn’t have learned all this.

Griggs: When you go through hell on earth, Jesus is giving us strength and wisdom too. He is the Truth and Light and when you walk in the Light you walk with him and it’s not bad, it’s great.

There were murders around John Warner…. There’s a homosexual clique in Norfolk. They get rid of the good guys.

Moderator: Don’t they refer to this at “Murder, Inc.”

Griggs: Yes, and the Marine Corps are the assassins for the mob. The mob in Virginia Beach is very strong and well organized and connected with the military. The military is the mob.

The individuals go to truck driving school (they are always moving things around) and then they go to Harvard Law School?

I talked to William Colby (Head of the CIA) on the phone, who knew my husband well, and he told me that all this stuff about Israel and the Phoenix Program was coming out. And he was going to be doing it. And Tedson Meyers law firm was a cross the hall from him.

Colby was murdered a week or two later. He was an insider, a good guy… He knew of my husband’s involvement with Victor Krulak, Former Commandante of the Marine Corps, Al Grey, the Russian double agent, who was called The Commissar, who was running everything, the murders and assassinations. These people think they are special and elite- like the German SS- they took with them the most perverted aspects of Nazi Germany… with the 200,000 who came over here in Operation Paperclip. Hitler was homosexually recruited in a brothel. A cabalistic doctor came in and said you look special and great.

He was running everything in Vietnam…. They were training boys to kill using mind control.

This is why the Army has so many special operations specialists.

Truth is a liberator. Their power of their operant conditioning is all in secrets. That’s the one way to tell who the cowards and bullies are now at the top of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps…. Especially General Charlie Wilhelm, who is doing awful things with men and women. They are called “cherry marines.”

If they are one of Grey’s boys, they rise to the top. Al Grey…. It’s all New Jersey mob.

Remember, Woodstock, guess who arranged it all. General Sheehan’s father, the head of NATO. Woodstock was a testing ground for drugs. Like the Jim Jones down in Guyana. Like little David Koresch. He had a Mossad handler…. But they always get away don’t they.

Noriega was an Israeli double agent. Anyone who is Jewish is automatically a member of the Israeli military.

Something is very strange here. Why are there no Moslems in the Near East Section of the State Department. Or Christians. Something is strange when you have a state dept. run by Israel. No wonder we don’t have peace. They want to control all those little countries around there.

The head of the Marine Corps in the 1850s and 1950s, who was a Cabalist Jew…. He’s the guy that changed the emblem.

George Griggs told me, we’ve always been the murderers. They have money, limitless money, I believe it’s mob money…. His uncle was his handler.

George’s cousin Bob, handled an account for George. George says he’s got so many passports with different names. Merrill Lynch is involved with mob… They have people who launder cash money through drugs.

Col. Barry Cantor, who is a cabalist Jew, who lives around the corner from T. Parker Host, who’s a commando assassin mob guy and brags about it. And who has 7 or 8 businesses and all of a sudden is a friend of George Bush’s.

Most husband is a gross perpetrator. John Moore is a perpetrator. He was a commando guerilla. There is an elite clique that runs everything…. And it’s not the CIA. George calls it “the Firm,” the Brotherhood, it’s Army, it’s White House…. But the presidents don’t know about it necessarily.

I know it is General Jim Joy that authorized the terrorism of my life. And General Carl Steiner, General Hartzog, General Abram, Damon, and Sheehan, I know…. And General Krulak, Krulak, Krulak. These men are the perpetrators. They bugged my phone, downloaded my caller ID. These are the ones that have authorized and given money to Alexander Robinson, Reynolds, JAG, worked with the Justice Dept.

The Justice Dept. is involved in this. There are rogues in the Justice Dept. who think they are handling people by using cruelty, tricks, psychological games.

Katherine Pollard Griggs Interview 4 of 4:

Moderator: You have been telling us that the US military itself is a mind control operation.

Griggs: Yes! They’ve gotten rid of the good folks. One by one. People like MacCarthur.

My husband told me that we were never really enemies of the Soviet Union.

My husband was mentally incapacitated but he was running half the world’s Marine Corps. But he could follow orders.

They use electronic warfare against me. (ETK note: gang stalking or GOG’S NeW GESSTTAPO). It’s all under a big operation…. They now have an operation to totally ruin me.

General Jim Joy was in charge of all the psychological operations at Panama and Waco.

They do cold murders when they graduate from SEAL school.

This “brotherhood,” all belong to the New Jersey (Brooklyn) mafia, so many are Masons now. The marine corps guys are the hit men they’ll work for anybody. They switch hats, from the Army to the Navy to the State Dept., just like that.

The man who started the OSS was recruiting German existentialists… what are they doing running our nation. They have more affinity for the state of Israel than America. The judges are not independent…. They are part of the military hierarchy that follows orders. Marines control powerful Congressional committees.

I know that our present Governor in Virginia was an Army officer. He takes orders.

The team that broke Watergate, Woodward and Bernstein, were (intelligence) operatives.

I met all these drug lords. They cultivate the sons of prominent families, they are called “rising stars.” The state dept. finds them then they “turn” them. And then let them know if they ever get in trouble, come on over here.

Huge planes loaded with drugs would land at military bases. They all brought them in; the Norwegians, the Brits…. The drugs, they would come down through Burma, Turkey; the banks were in Beruit, Panama, Mexico, in St. Thomas…. the laundering of cash… You can very easily find out who the drug lords are….

The guys who are controlling the flow of drugs are military officers. I wondered why Ray Moore was going down to Lake Chapala Mexico or Guadalajara. There would be another Ken Millis, these are guys who are part of “the brotherhood.” And they are all going down to Mexico. Ray and another guy got cancer all of a sudden.

This is an elaborate big business. All the chemicals and biologicals. We manufactured the chemicals and biologicals that were in Iraq. They were manufacturing deadly chemicals. The Marine Corps, Al Krulac, Al Grey, Scrowcroft, Ed Wilson, Carl Monday, who was CFR. His father was a German Nazi. These are the people who sold the biologicals and chemicals to Sadam Hussein. Members of “The Firm.”

Lt. Col. Randy Aybear is a real hero. His testimony says it all. He should take over our Marine Corps.

In Special Operations, all people are part of this Firm. Once they get Colonel, they get initiated—they get drunk, “dine in,” “shellback”, have anal sex, group sex.

Moderator: The U.S. is becoming a Sodom and Gomorrah. And it’s not only the military that is top heavy with degenerates, but also banking. The people that are moral can’t move the way up because they can’t be controlled. So they are killed or disposed of.

So the drinking comes before the initiation when you become Byrd Colonels- and then all the sexual debauchery. Do you suppose there are people there gathering information on them when they go through this?

Griggs: Of course, the chaplains are intelligence people…. Guys who go to Yale, the Chaplain Corps, these people collect all the information on people. If the marine they are monitoring is tells truth is a whistleblower or if the wife is a problem, they collect them, the throw ‘em in, they fill them full of chemicals, they’ll implant them,. I believe my husband had a chip in him.

If they are in Special Operations and they are Marines, they are all homosexuals. It’s kind of like the fast road to the top. SEALS, etc. This is the norm. There were Israelis at these parties, intelligence people. Intelligence? There’s no intelligence there. There’s perversion. They’re all nudists. Makes it easier, you know.

But the women leave at about 11 pm. And the guys all stay around there. It’s just the ritual. This is what they do. These are the big guys who send their boys to war.

The Saudi boys were encouraged to do this to corrupt them. And they would have a strong tendency toward morality. And who do you think did it? Charles Caddock, Alexander Robinson, Cheeseburger, who was at Russell House. Who was the young man who was partying with them. My husband, George Griggs. He was 9th grade in high school when they first got to him. He was a cheerleader and a French major. He was in this school with homosexuals. They sent his parents to California. He didn’t see his parents for 8 solid years.

And who was in the group with them, Albert Einstein? This back in 1952, 1953. He was in that bisexual group. Camus, Sartre….

Bob Edwards who is a Marine Corps Colonel was part of that group. He went on to Fort Benning (School of Americas); he was in psychological warfare.

I was started to document the violence. He socked me in the breast and I had to have surgery. He had already broken my leg. This guy had murdered his first wife. He was doing that to me. I started taking notes and taping things. I wanted somebody to know so I wouldn’t die. I was trying to get him to realized what he was doing to me.

He started getting scared. He had clout in the State Department. He knew I loved showing people around. So he would plan something that I just had to do. He had some dignitaries, parliamentarians from one of the Latin American countries, Panama. And we had to go Richmond. And George didn’t want to go with me. It just so happened that Bob Edwards invited him to come up and meet with some of the guys.

He had already been talking to Phil Holwager about the abuse. Because I had already talked to him about the surgery. Holwager was there during my surgery, kind of holding George’s hand. He was the Chaplain for Fleet Marine Force Atlantic and he was the Chaplain at George’s first wife’s funeral. So he knew what George did to his first wife. He had gone to school with Gary Hart’s at Yale and was a colleague of Pat Robinson’s.

So George started knowing that I was going to do something. Looking back, I can see why. If he had been convicted of battering me he wouldn’t have been able to carry and use his .45 pistol anymore.

My husband was way above Bo Gritz’s level, who I believe was an Army Guerilla Commando. My husband’s circle included Kissinger, Crowe, Haigh, MacFarlane, Victor Krulak. You see, Grey is the control guy….. Grey and Joy are the big guys…..

He was at Moral, Welfare Recreation… It’s kind of a money laundering thing. They run all the officer’s clubs. It’s run by the military even though it’s supposedly not.

They all make a lot of money. This is tax payer money. Hard-working people who are just wondering where their money are going to come from. Mother’s of children who are having to work three jobs. And their spending ten million dollars on phallic-shaped weapons.

Israel (IAI) has a joint venture with TWR that does all the credit reports on the Americans. They have the computers together. The Israelis stole the whole Inslaw system and sold it back to the justice Deparment. Mike Fuller knows all this. Mike Fuller is a former assassin who is talking. I met him through Sara.

Do you know author, Victor Marshenko. I read his books to see if it lined up with what George was involved with.

This conference I attended had probably 1000 Seals at it. Their graduation exercise is to do a cold kill. Just go into a hotel and whack somebody. And all my underwear disappeared. I don’t know whether it was Michael O’Boyle doing it. Between 1991 and 1993, Michael was 3 miles from my husband. My husband saw him all the time. He and his first wife had divorced. He was having an affair with a secretary. But in order to get into the system, he was my husband’s younger friend. And that started when he was in the 7th Fleet under Krulak and Buel in intelligence on the ship. My husband never invited him over, but he saw him. You can guess what that means.

The team, the biological-electronic warfare school…. After my husband left FMF Lan, He went to this school, the special operations school which ran the whole team’s foreigners and everywhere.

MAC-SOG. Is a code word for sending out platoons to kill people in Vietnam. SOG is Special Operations Group. If you know anything about the German high command, they are connected with the Opus Dei, they are kind of a business group that works within the Vatican.

Most of the wives are scared to death. Because they know what happened to Sue Griggs. They’ve had their papers stolen. We talk anyway. You are talking about some really brave women here.

When a started this, it seemed like a 2000 piece puzzle…. Now, it’s like a 6 piece puzzle. I’ve had death threats. It’s been hell. But truth and light…. These women going through hell because their husband’s are cowards and bullies. This is in the Constitution. You don’t steal their papers. You don’t try to destroy the core that God has given them when they’re born.

The mother’s are finding out. McVeigh’s mother has talked. The unibomber’s mother has spoken out. Michael Gnu is a MacCarther. Abear is the new Patton. These modern day Saducees and Pharisees are saying ‘’we’re going to get rid of Patton” But for everyone like Sue Griggs, who is murdered there are 100 who will spring up and say no, now you have me to worry about.

Who’s behind all this? It’s Caspar Weinberger, its Henry Kissinger, Nicholas Walt Whitman Rostow, Eugene Debs Rostow (ETK: All Jews)…. What’s going on here? These guys are not even born in America. They’re training mercenaries now to kill on an order. Not killing because people are breaking into their homes, not killing because they are bad. But just, we want to control this country. That’s what George told me. Its political. The Marine Corps is the political arm of a group that wants to run everything. Control the drugs, sell the weapons… Keep the weapons and drug money flowing.

This is not what guys are going to sign up to do. Their hearts’ not in it. They’re not even going to do it for the money. They’d rather die than have collection groups come after them. They have a group of marines who go out and collect guys who have gone to their psychiatrists who are talking to much. They get rid of them. But they aren’t told why. They’re just told they’re enemies or they’ve done bad things. So they won’t have any guilt or culpability. They make it cold. Just get rid of this guy, OK? OK. Get a promotion. Get a new car. Get some stock.

After my husband did what he did in Beruit, I found these stubs; he got all these major stocks, AT&T…. He came back with 1000’s of dollars of stock from a quasi-government company, all on a sheet of paper. That’s how he was paid off for his criminal activities, for selling weapons, going through Tel Aviv, the bank in Rome. Selling the weapons illegally. The Israeli agents are the middlemen and all the money is going to Israel. It really is the truth.

Not just the money that is given to them free and clear. But all the criminal, black budget money that Meyer Lansky’s group started in the 40s has been growing and growing. It’s like a pyramid scheme. And the Jesuits, I’ve been told, are really controlled by this group now.

George was involved with a lot of the cover-ups of Marines who went crazy. Remember the movie, A Few Good Men, with Jack Nicholson, a movie about a Marine Colonel who murdered a guy…. My husband was the Chief of Staff that tried to cover this up. They were so arrogant. It was a woman who got this thing going. They were targeting these other guys. The point is: this guy was murdered and the Colonel laughed it off. It was down in Guantanamo Bay. It was General Al Grey. It’s just so sick.

ETK Notes: Kay Griggs – Jeff Rense Interviews: 2005.

I’ve had death threats… I was invited to stay at a sort of a safe house in Washington…. to talk to some, I guess they were intelligence people at the press club who were friends of Sara McClendon, the Senior White House Correspondent, who knew I was telling the truth.

I felt very secure after I had talked to CIA Director William Colby, who was friends with my uncle Ben. They were at Princeton together and also at the same secret society and eating clubs. Then when he went missing, his canoe was turned over (i.e. assassinated), I felt really insecure. Sara McClendon invited me to stay with her at that point and she saved my life. She was a great lady and a true patriot. She was there during the Roosevelt administration and ever since.

This “brotherhood” that my husband was in feels they are totally above the law… and they protect each other. (And they are determined to destroy this country.) It’s an international brotherhood and it is very much Freemasonic.

There’s a group within the Marine Corps that has gone to Princeton and Annapolis, who are in the upper eschelons of the Marine Corps. It has to do with which colleges they went to, the secret societies, eating clubs, etc. And their associations in Vietnam and the Sheik-Nato, Defense College in Rome experiences. They are very insecure.

The Freemasons have a ladder and they are always climbing because they are very insecure. They give each other lots of medals. Rummy went to NATO when Nixon’s world was falling in which saved him and protected him.

General Mark Clark was very corrupt, believe it or not.

Rense: Who are these people? Is this group an enforcement arm of the Illuminati?

Griggs: They are. They are connected with the Joint Chiefs and the NSA and the White House. George told me that they wear different hats, and it doesn’t really matter which hat they wear. He had different passports with different names. I felt as though he might have even had a double. He was very insecure and robotic.

Greg Syzmansky article about Kay Griggs: George Griggs was a military assassin and trainer of other military assassins. He gave Kay Griggs details about how Waco was carried out and how many other hits went down…. Including that of Ron Brown, who was trying to take away the State Department’s monopoly on drug money and arms deals.

There’s so much of that going on in terms of arms sales. They will sell American weapons through an Israeli group. It’s to confuse people. Israelis will use the Americans in the arms sales….. they are the middle men in the arms sales.

This “brotherhood” is a very small group: George Griggs, Bob Edwards, Donald Rumsfeld, William Colby, George Schultz, Frank Carlucci, and Allen Dulles. Dulles I believe is the one responsible for bringing my husband, Carlucci and Rummy in. All of these were in Princeton’s Cap and Gown fraternity; my uncle Ben had been in that club.

I began to connect dots… These are young men on scholarship, they don’t have parents, they’re poor, they have no careers, so they are really dependent on the political-military hoops and people to promote them. And Allen Dulles really pretty much oversaw their initial getting into political spheres of power.

Rense: I think the underlying point here is that murder means nothing to the power brokers at the top. And it is commonly used as a political, economic, and terrorism device- these are true terrorists- any time and anywhere they want it seems.

Griggs: It’s arms length. It has nothing to do with the politicians or the intelligence high-level person who want to get rid of this troublesome guy.

There were German individuals, SS, who came into this country after World War II (in Operation Paperclip). I know because my grandfather was involved with that as a Naval intelligence officer/doctor during WWII. But when George was talking to me, and I knew his family were German. I realized what he was talking about was institutionalized. It is structural and vital to the system.

Ron Brown was killed in a plane crash. George would talk about plane crashes and say it was a way to get rid of a small number of people. He said it’s much better to have a plane crash than to have a war. He was rationalizing and saying that plane crashes were normal special operations that they did. He used words like surgical and neutralization. In other words, it was just a matter of fact thing that just had to be done.

Rense: Ron Brown’s plane crash killed something like 50 people. They flew it into the top of a hill. Apparently, the first people on the scene a survivor, a military stewardess who survived the crash and was walking around, but mysteriously died shortly thereafter. Ron Brown is said to have been found with a hole in the top of his head. The autopsy has never been released.

Griggs: George mentioned ‘signature murders’ and explained that Marines had different patterns that they would leave marks that would snipers or shooters or whomever the dirty tricks/wet ops people would know who did it.

Like Paul Wellstone’s plane and Ashcroft’s opponent. These signature’s are just all over the place. John Denver… and the group that formed a critical mass against land mines. All this was over the land mine issue with Diana because that’s a growth industry with the Navy in Texas. Because they had formed a critical mass and within a matter of months the movement was decapitated. That’s what he said they had to do. He said they don’t like critical masses that threaten something that is profitable or political that is important to them.

Rense: Are they guarding their own worth and value or are they guarding those they are associated with, or both?

Griggs: It’s certainly both. When people go through initiations in the Masons, the shellbacks, the ceremonies that are really sort of gross…. They bond the boys. They’re drunk and it’s a memorable experience. It’s a form of bonding. It gave Leyman the courage to do what he did at Tailhook with all the Marines looking on. You know, it’s we won’t tell. Or if someone tells, they are disappeared, or neutralized, or ruined. So they’re afraid but it’s also exciting. And they have affairs. Bob Oakley, and Gates, all these guys, Buck Ravelle, they pal around with.. You know, Tom Clancy, Ben Bradley, Gerry Unrue, are part of the group and nobody will talk. And they do things and nobody will talk. Everybody sort of knows they are messing around…. They are doing homosexual/pedophilia/swinging and are all part of the group and nobody talks. All the Marines; Hafenfuth, and North, Kallstrom.

It’s a very small group that has been working together for a long time…. sort of like the Delta Team 1 in Italy, with a boss and so forth, and General Steiner was involved.

Rense: But this group was preceded by another group and a group before that. This is nothing new.

Griggs. Yes, the Dulles group. Paperclip was a huge operation. My grandfather Byrd was a high-level intelligence person during WWII, he was a doctor, he spoke German, he was a brilliant obstetrician. So I know a lot of what was going is on in Norfolk, Virginia, since WWI up through the 80’s. And when I found out that the same thing goes on in other ports. And organized crime is totally involved in it, naturally.

Rense: Kay. How is it that you have escaped being murdered?

Griggs: Well, George murdered his first wife, Sue. Suzanne Workman Griggs was killed during the Iran-Contra hearings. George was Ollie North’s handler for Al Grey for the Joint.

Rense: Your ex-husband was Ollie North’s handler?

Griggs: Yes. George was the Chief of Staff for the Marine Corps, for “Grey’s Boys,” the assassins, who were working with General Steiner, General Jim Joy, and General Grup Krulak and they working the Nelson Rockefeller group in the Republican Party. Actually, they were working both sides (Democrat and Republican) with people like Walt Rostow and …. They’re all…

Rense: If I can go back to former CIA Director William Colby, your friend.

Griggs. Yes, he was a good friend of my uncle’s and a really nice man. I spoke with him after March 4 when I had called General Joy and wanted to find my husband, because I had no money. And General Joy said; “I don’t believe I know your husband.” I was just then looking at my husband’s diary in Beirut and it had names like Bob Oakley, Bob Gates, Lonika, you know, every day with General Joy and Steiner (so he was seeing them every day for the pre-bombing planning part of the operation).

Then when I told him I had the diary he couldn’t wait to meet me. Then my house was broken into and I was set up by a NATO person named Fred Hence.

Rense: Just to underscore the point that no one is secure, Former CIA Director, William Colby, as I recall, was about to testify at some Senate or House Committee. Then we heard that he was dead. Allegedly what happened is that on a cold and rainy night, he got up from his comfortable desk at 11 pm and went out for a canoe paddle. Supposedly, he went out for a canoe ride and it turned over and he drowned.

Griggs: Well, he had dinner uneaten and his computer was turned on.

I went to a cocktail party in Virginia Beach, it was a very high-level cocktail party. One of the individuals there was part of the high-level Lavendar Boy network in Norfolk. He couldn’t wait to tell me that he had some friends that were Navy SEALS and that they knew had done it. They didn’t know it was Colby at the time. So it was done by some Navy SEALS here at Little Creek who were ordered to do it. This is how it works.

Rense: When Senator Wellstone’s plane went down, you are well aware of the threat that Dick Cheney had made to him several months before the crash. The timing of it probably didn’t take you by surprise, did it?

Griggs: No, and the Ashcroft one didn’t either. I heard that the person that was running against him, Mel Karnahan, was in a plane crash…. It was a couple day before the election, I understand. And his widow stepped in. It’s like the one in Louisiana, she’s a columnist.

There were people like General Andrews, and his family knows that he was murdered back in the 40s.

Secretary Forrestal, who was thrown out of a window of a tall building, was a Princeton guy.

General Patton was done by the Mark Clark group. Because of his discovery of all the things they were doing with paintings. He was basically an honest guy, and a truth teller, Patton. He knew that Clark had done all sorts of nefarious things.

I believe the reason I’m alive is that I spoke up right away when Sara told me to. And also because George’s first wife was murdered…. Everyone was told that she had had a heart attack. She had gone ballistic…. When I saw the death certificate that he had hidden I found out that she had a cerebral hemorrhage.

He gave her one of the things that he gave me…. He killed her. And I told that to two different people… And I finally got a woman in Oceana who was at NCS, NIS and I found out she was a marine. But three days later, Sue’s body had been dug up and removed. I know that they didn’t do an autopsy on her body. George got rid of it.

Rense: Was it some sort of poison?

Griggs: You know, he put things in my coffee. I don’t want to go into that. It’s just too painful. It was like a movie. I was struggling. And I knew what she had gone through. And I really believe that’s why I’m alive today.
Rense: Why did he leave for those last several years of your marriage?

Griggs: Well, he was involved with the Bosnian thing, pre-positioning of weapons in Norway. He was totally pre-occupied with that. Because they knew there was going to be the war.

Rense: Did you hear from him about how long the Iraq war involvement was pre-planned.

Griggs: He discussed a lot about Iran and Dacca Valley and the Israelis…. The Tel Aviv Israelis.

Rense: What did he think of the Zionist Israelis?

Griggs: Well, they are totally involved in everything that was going on. Because they have these assassin duo teams. Like the one that got Bill Cosby’s son. They have an Israeli and an American and they are usually “flamers.” They have sex with each other. They are shooters and Marines.

I met the Israeli mother of this guy who was part of an assassin team. It was some sort of jurisdictional thing…. The Israeli would do assassinations in America and the American would do assassinations in Israel, etc.

Rense: Tell us what you know about Waco.

Griggs: Well, George’s triumvirate, that is, with General Steiner and General Jim Joy, were involved with training operations sometime before in Panama, in and out, they were involved with CIA, training other men from other countries with Americans.

They had been involved with Noriega, on and off, for quite some time. With the North crowd and so forth.

Carl Steiner and Jim Joy were involved with the Waco. They brought in people from other countries. It was a training operation for them. They did it in Panama. This is just a live-fire training operation. And they do live-fire training all the time, and George was the number 1 shooter for the Marines for years. They use live bullets.

Rense: So they turn people loose and hunt them down.

Griggs: Exactly.

Rense: TWA Flight 800, what do you know about that?

Griggs: The scuttlebutt around here is that it was a NATO SAT Plant day… or mistake. And Kallstrom being a Marine, yes, Kelly, Ben Bradlee, Buck Revelle, Warner, Cord Meyer, Oliver North, all these guys- and Armitage-trained SEALS with these guys- they do operations and have done operations, so that when the time comes for promotion and to cover up this or that…. Kallstrom was right there.

This is why O’Neil was murdered in 9/11. Because he knew everything about what was going on. They got rid of him. It was his birthday on the job (at the WTC). It was FBI Director Mueller’s birthday. There were too many….

Rense: Understand. This is going on in broad daylight right in front of us all the time. These killings, these plane crashes, these alleged suicides. Remember the Clinton death list? So many people killing themselves by shooting themselves multiple times in the head.

Griggs: Well, Admiral Borda was killed by a Marine. Because he was going to testify the very next day. And I believe it was all about the guys who were coming to Norfolk Virginia from other countries, particularly, Israel, were coming to Norfolk, Virginia, being paid by the government, and they were doing operations inside the United States.

I knew who was involved with spying on Colby. Just like Nussbaum was across the hall from Vince Foster. There’s always somebody with an office across the hall.

Rense: They’re always watched.

Griggs: Linda Tripp worked for Carl Steiner and so did McVeigh. And they knew Monical Lewinski liked older men, she had that propensity. They knew she would gravitate toward Clinton and vice versa.

Rense: What do you know about the Oklahoma City bombing?

Griggs: They had a group down there, one of the Princeton friends of George’s. They were bringing lots of Iranians early on. This is back in the 70s. And they were essentially bonding. It’s kind of like Ponchatrain area where they would bring these international visitors, military, and essentially it was under the auspices of Carl Steiner.

Rense: Who did Oklahoma City?

Griggs: Steiner and Joy.

Rense: Was McVeigh actually executed? Or just put in a deep sleep and carried away? They say he was breathing after he was dead under the sheet.

Griggs: Well, he was a special guy with Steiner. And he was intelligent.

Rense: Was he a throw away?

Griggs: They threw Oswald away but they didn’t throw North away. It depended on who the person was and how special their special friend was. George’s special friend, who protected him, he died. He was in the Army. Because George said that the old guard runs everything.

Rense: Was there a purging of the military? I remember the one plane crash with out a dozen high ranking officers.

Griggs: Oh, sure. They murdered an Air Force guy who was going to be the Chief of Staff of the Air Force of 1996. They got rid of the CNO of the Navy. 1996 was a big purge year.

Rense: There was so much murder during the Clinton adminstration, it boggles the mind.

Griggs: But they also went after Clinton…. The plane that Clinton was flying on his birthday…. Somebody had told Clinton. The plane he was supposed to be on went down.

White House correspondent, Sara McClendon, knew a lot of the scuttlebutt. She knew about Linda Tripp, how There was a movie, called ‘Wag the Dog’, ahead of the Izikoff story. If you remember Clinton welcomed Arafat from Palestine, but he wouldn’t see Sharon. And immediately after, that’s when the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke. The Israelis did that.

Rense: We’re falling into a very unsettling reality here, I’m not sure people can handle it.…. Let’s talk about the zionist neo-cons. Zionism has taken control of israel and this country as well. Tell us about the grip that this group holds over this country’s government. What do you know about Zionism, Wolfowitz, Perle, etc.?

Griggs. Well, it’s pretty significant. And it goes back a long way. So I don’t know where you me to begin… whether it’s Judah P. Benjamin, or Yuriah P. Levy and what I believe is the murder of Jefferson and Adams, and the Rothschild element that was involved with them.

You see, the Marines, in the 1850s, according to George, they were assassins, and they were funded by a Masonic lodge in France. And they would protect ships. So you had this German-trained Marine major, Jacob Zeiplin, who (Jew) who was really a loser. He wound up being head of the Marine Corps. But he was involved in the murder of John Brown. He worked for this Belmont guy. Remember Robert E. Lee was supposed to go and stop the murder of John Brown.

Zeiplin actually changed the Marine uniforms to be like the Germans, with the pink helmets and everything. The Rothschilds were funding all these medals and things. And the motto became the Rothschild coat of arms and various other symbols like the global new world order.

Rense: Who killed Lincoln?

Griggs: It was done by a small southern Masonic group which Judah P. Benjamin was involved with and southern Freemasons.

Rense: The issue of Zionism controlling this country is a huge issue. It cannot be underestimated. And our ties to Israel right back to London.

Griggs: Exactly.

Rense: John Kennedy Jr. Anything on that?

Griggs: Yes, I’m sure that was done because he was getting ready to become head and the JFK school that was the most important at Harvard. He was also thinking about running for office. He was magical like Diana. Anybody would follow him. They don’t want that.

Rense: The could have extricated America from their grasp. And he would have These people are so evil and so psychopathic that they will take all of us down with them rather than lose control. Is that accurate.

Griggs: I believe that’s the way they are because they are very childish and so egocentric.

Part Two: Rense Interview of Kay Giggs.

Rense: Can you just go over the basics for us….

Griggs: I met my husband, Colonel George Griggs, when I was working at the Chamber of Commerce in Norfolk, VA. He rented a house from me.

It was just during the Iran-Contra hearings. Unbeknownst to me, he had been involved at the highest level in all that. He was being moved from one job to another. He was training SEALS and Joint assassins at the Little Creek Naval School which trained people from other countries, in other words SEALS and Marines and they did operations together.

I think he was anxious to marry. I was sort of a high profile person in Norfolk. I think he needed cover. I was totally unaware that a world like his existed.

He told me that he really wasn’t a Colonel. He said he wore different hats and that none of them really meant anything. He was kind of bragging. But I knew he was for real, because all the other Colonels were in awe of him, or in fear of him.

His first wife knew a lot about Iran-Contra and she was very angry with him for what he’d done in that.

James Baker got involved with my husband because they were in the same eating club at Princeton. Likewise, Rummy (Donald Rumsfeld).

He did operations including wet, dry, and psychological operations. Very important. People don’t realize they literally are tormenting and doing all kinds of horrible things to innocent people. Sometimes just as experiments.

Rense: Give me an example. This locks in to the claims by regular people who claim that they’ve had a brain implant, or they’re hearing voices, or they’re obviously involved in some kind of experiment, they’re being toyed with, etc.

Griggs: Of course there’s truth to that. The kinds of toys they have to use on unsuspecting people. For instance, the Germans who came in to this country even before WWI and then just pouring into the ports here after WWII. They set up these CCC camps so that these Germans would have a place to live.

The psychological operations group came in through some of the Germans…. It was institutionalized before, during and after WWII when the entire German command, the SS, were given money by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Army. In fact, Gehlen himself was in Virginia for a whole year with his 6 guys. And lots of people went up to Fort Hunt to see him.

So the psychological operations games that the Soviets and Germans used were institutionalized in our American Army and Joint Command. It wasn’t just the CIA.
It’s just wrong.

Things were done to me… and I was trying to figure out what was going on. These kinds of operations…. Some of the guys laugh and said we just practice on the wives. Some of the things done to me were not only sadistic, but cruel.

One night the SEALS were caught in my neighborhood. The windows in my car were smashed two or three times. I had tires flattened. They laugh about it, Ha ha ha.

When Sara McClendon, the senior White House Correspondent, said she had to call from another house, because every time she called here, a man came to the phone and said this was a military base and the Griggs’ don’t live here anymore.

You see the Russell Trust, the money came from England. I think the Saudi boys were just as innocent in the beginning. The people in charge of the men who were doing these (homosexual) things to my husband were Jewish people. Oppenheimer and those. The poor boys didn’t hardly have time to go to class. They were under the Germans, the ones who have the German disease, homosexuality. I’m sure they did the same thing to John Nash, of “A Beautiful Mind.”

George Griggs. I’m sure he had a chip in him.

Rense: How common is the homosexuality….

Griggs: Everyone does it. If you are on a Navy ship, the guys strip down and they have guys in line….. there are books about the “cherry marines.” They’re the bottom. The problem is that it’s institutionalized. It messes up their minds and their lives.

The murders: people like Paisley and Chadron and Seigler and Mary Meyer, and Ron Brown. The Wellstones, Senator Mel Karnahan.

Rense: Murder is a commonly held tool in American politics. Dr. David Kelly in England, Vince Foster.

Griggs: (Murder) It’s strategic. If there is a critical mass that is building that opposes the prevailing policy….. George of course was involved in Plans And Policy….

And the group, Armitage, Gates, MacFarland, Buck Ravelle, it was a coordinating subgroup in the White House that George worked with. They all thought they were special because they had been given these jobs. It was a small buddy-buddy group that coalesced during Vietnam.

These operations were done through the Department of State. They would pop off somebody who was British in a heartbeat. The people who worked with these Marines are Israeli assassins and they train at Quantico. These “flamers” (mixed American and Israeli homosexual kill team) would go to other countries and do these murders and blame them on the Arabs.

There always are Israelis involved… if you even look at Abu Graib.

We can’t as a country be looked at as an honest broker if there is nobody in the state dept. who even speaks the Arab languages or who cares about the Arab cause.

Rense: A coup d’etat has occurred by another nation. And a geopolitical philosophy known as Zionism. This is a Jewish supremacist Zionist group.

Griggs: Yes. If you get a magazine like “The Journal of Netcentric Warfare” (C4-ISR Journal) put out by Defense News Media Group, you see ISI, the Israeli Company. I would go Army shows and see the Hunter system which was a command and control system which was Israeli run with our equipment. They know when we are having all of our operations. They know everything because they are meeting everyday in Quantico with the FBI, the CIA… And it’s just not fair because if they want to cause trouble, which I believe that they naturally do, I mean, look at the USS Liberty.

Rense: That’s just one example. Also, there is a suggestion that the 241 Marines who were killed in Beirut in the bombing were taken out by Israelis as well.

Griggs: Yes. That Sharon was involved with that and my husband said he knew about it beforehand. And there he was a Marine, knowing about it and he did nothing.

Rense: As you know, Israeli companies have the contracts to do the billing for about 80% or so of American telephone and cell phone communications. They’ve also put in the highest level, ultra-top secret communications systems and softwar between the White House and the Pentagon and don’t tell me they haven’t built backdoors in there. They have the ability to monitor telephone calls real-time all the way to Israel and listen in anywhere they want anytime they want. These people are totally brilliant at what they’ve done and they have totally taken over much of the internal mechanism of this country.

Griggs: And the top computer guy at the Pentagon I know is a Zionist. He calls himself an anarchist.

Rense: The numbers of murders in the Clinton years. The famous Clinton death list. Did you hear anything about the death of Dr. David Kelly.

Griggs: Yes, I saw him on TV the day before he was murdered. I believe the individuals around him put him on the hot seat. And when I had the two death threats it was with this New Jersey guy named Joe… he just said he’d done his wife and if I didn’t stop talking about my phone conversation with CIA Director William Colby. Colby told me not to worry. I just knew he was going to take care of things.

But then two weeks later, Colby was killed. It was exactly the same thing that happened to Paisley. Paisley’s murder occurred during the Nixon administration.

People like Oswald and George are always anxious because they feel they can be taken out too. Once you’ve been through the elite ROTC, they protect each other.

The Gehlen Nazi intelligence people. I believe they are still involved… with 911.